Top 5 @ each position

[Saint33]

Who do you think are the top 5 players @ each position?

QB

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb


RB

1. LaDainian Tomlinson
2. Larry Johnson
3. Stephen Jackson
4. Frank Gore
5. Brian Westbrook


WR

1. Steve Smith
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Chad Johnson
4. Torry Holt
5. (tie) Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin


TE

1. Antonio Gates
2. Alge Crumpler
3. Kellen Winslow Jr.
4. Todd Heap
5. Jeremy Shockey


OT

1. Jonathan Ogden
2. Jammal Brown
3. Orlando Pace
4. Walter Jones
5. Willie Anderson


OG

1. Steve Hutchinson
2. Alan Faneca
3. Larry Allen
4. Chris Naeole
5. Logan Mankins


DE

1. Julius Peppers
2. Jason Taylor
3. Richard Seymour
4. Dwight Freeney
5. Will Smith


DT

1. Marcus Stroud
2. Pat Williams
3. Jamal Williams
4. Tommie Harris
5. Kevin Williams


OLB

1. Shawne Merriman
2. Keith Bullock
3. Julian Peterson
4. Terrell Suggs
5. Joey Porter


ILB

1. Brian Urlacher
2. Ray Lewis
3. Jonathan Vilma
4. Zach Thomas
5. DeMeco Ryans



CB

1. Champ Bailey
2. Asante Samuel
3. DeAngelo Hall
4. Antoine Winfield
5. Chris McAlister


S

1. Ed Reed
2. Brian Dawkins
3. Bob Sanders
4. Adrian Wilson
5. Troy Polamalu

[kevmvp]

Prett good rankings. Kerry Rhodes should be in the top 5 for safties in my opinion over maybe Polomalu.

I would put Vilma in the top 5 for ILB over Zach Thomas, Demeco Ryans, and Mike Peterson

[kc5950]

Is this strictly based off of production? or are system, team impact and actual talent included in your rankings?

[cubuffsman78]

Terrance Newman should be in the CB top 5. DeAngelo Hall is terribly overrated. He was horrid this season. I think Samuel is a system guy. He'll make a huge mistake if he leaves NE. His production will slip greatly. Newman is #2 to me. He was the only bright spot in the Dallas secondary this season and that includes Roy Williams.

[kevmvp]

I would also still put Shaun Alexander in the top 5 for RB's.

[Saint33]

Originally Posted by kevmvp Prett good rankings. Kerry Rhodes should be in the top 5 for safties in my opinion over maybe Polomalu. I would put Vilma in the top 5 for ILB over Zach Thomas, Demeco Ryans, and Mike Peterson

You know what, i completely forgot about Vilma, i planned to have him #3, and when i got to making the list he just slipped my mind, edited in now

And if Kerry Rhodes has the same production next season as he did this season, he'll crack the top 5, probably even the top 3.

Originally Posted by kc5950 Is this strictly based off of production? or are system, team impact and actual talent included in your rankings?

a little bit of all of those, and a little bit of personal preference.

Originally Posted by cubuffsman78 Terrance Newman should be in the CB top 5. DeAngelo Hall is terribly overrated. He was horrid this season. I think Samuel is a system guy. He'll make a huge mistake if he leaves NE. His production will slip greatly. Newman is #2 to me. He was the only bright spot in the Dallas secondary this season and that includes Roy Williams.

i had Terrance Newman ranked @ #6, just barely beat out by McAlister. And i agree that he was the only bright spot in their secondary, Roy Williams is one of the most overrated players in the NFL.

Although i don't agree with Hall being overrated, I really like him, and think with in a couple of years he could be up there with Champ. Samuel might be a system guy, but hes only been in that system, so until he leaves, hes going to be that high in my mind

[michael]

Originally Posted by Saint33 Although i don't agree with Hall being overrated, I really like him, and think with in a couple of years he could be up there with Champ. Samuel might be a system guy, but hes only been in that system, so until he leaves, hes going to be that high in my mind

How is hall not overrated? What did he do this year that would make him top 5 quality?

[michael]

Originally Posted by Saint33 Although i don't agree with Hall being overrated, I really like him, and think with in a couple of years he could be up there with Champ. Samuel might be a system guy, but hes only been in that system, so until he leaves, hes going to be that high in my mind

How is Hall not overrated? What did he do this year that would make him top 5 quality?

[kc5950]

Originally Posted by Saint33 Originally Posted by kc5950 Is this strictly based off of production? or are system, team impact and actual talent included in your rankings? a little bit of all of those, and a little bit of personal preference.

In that case your offensive side, IMO is not great. Although, in response to Kev, Shaun Alexander is not even a top 10 runningback. He is a one dimensional oddball in a system which fits nothing but his running style. He is a detriment to the Seahawks.

Here are my offensive changes.


QB

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb


1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Donovan Mcnabb
5. Drew Brees (by default)


RB

1. LaDainian Tomlinson
2. Larry Johnson
3. Stephen Jackson
4. Frank Gore
5. Brian Westbrook


1. Ladainian Tomlinson
2. Frank Gore
3. Larry Johnson
4. Reggie Bush
5. Stephen Jackson


WR

1. Steve Smith
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Chad Johnson
4. Torry Holt
5. (tie) Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin


1. Marvin Harrison
2. Torry Holt
3. Randy Moss
4. Chad Johnson
5. Andre Johnson

TE

1. Antonio Gates
2. Alge Crumpler
3. Kellen Winslow Jr.
4. Todd Heap
5. Jeremy Shockey


1. Antonio Gates
2. Tony Gonzalez
3. Todd Heap
4. Vernon Davis
5. Alge Crumpler


OT

1. Jonathan Ogden
2. Jammal Brown
3. Orlando Pace
4. Walter Jones
5. Willie Anderson


1. Walter Jones
2. Orlando Pace
3. Jonathan Ogden
4. Tarik Glenn
5. William Thomas


OG

1. Steve Hutchinson
2. Alan Faneca
3. Larry Allen
4. Chris Naeole
5. Logan Mankins

I cant really argue here.

[kevmvp]

Originally Posted by kc5950 Originally Posted by Saint33 Originally Posted by kc5950 Is this strictly based off of production? or are system, team impact and actual talent included in your rankings? a little bit of all of those, and a little bit of personal preference. In that case your offensive side, IMO is not great. Although, in response to Kev, Shaun Alexander is not even a top 10 runningback. He is a one dimensional oddball in a system which fits nothing but his running style. He is a detriment to the Seahawks. Here are my offensive changes. QB 1. Peyton Manning 2. Tom Brady 3. Drew Brees 4. Carson Palmer 5. Donovan McNabb 1. Peyton Manning 2. Carson Palmer 3. Tom Brady 4. Donovan Mcnabb 5. Drew Brees (by default) RB 1. LaDainian Tomlinson 2. Larry Johnson 3. Stephen Jackson 4. Frank Gore 5. Brian Westbrook 1. Ladainian Tomlinson 2. Frank Gore 3. Larry Johnson 4. Reggie Bush 5. Stephen Jackson WR 1. Steve Smith 2. Marvin Harrison 3. Chad Johnson 4. Torry Holt 5. (tie) Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin 1. Marvin Harrison 2. Torry Holt 3. Randy Moss 4. Chad Johnson 5. Andre Johnson TE 1. Antonio Gates 2. Alge Crumpler 3. Kellen Winslow Jr. 4. Todd Heap 5. Jeremy Shockey 1. Antonio Gates 2. Tony Gonzalez 3. Todd Heap 4. Vernon Davis 5. Alge Crumpler OT 1. Jonathan Ogden 2. Jammal Brown 3. Orlando Pace 4. Walter Jones 5. Willie Anderson 1. Walter Jones 2. Orlando Pace 3. Jonathan Ogden 4. Tarik Glenn 5. William Thomas OG 1. Steve Hutchinson 2. Alan Faneca 3. Larry Allen 4. Chris Naeole 5. Logan Mankins I cant really argue here.

Shaun Alexnader is definitley a top 10 RB and is probably a top 5 as well. Who cares if you think he is a system guy because it is based off of production.