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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
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June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

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Texans- Who really cares at this point.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
I knew you were going to say that...I was just waiting for you to do so. Edwards was also 2 or 3 inches taller than June. He also was much better at taking on blockers. There are more free blockers to take on LBs in a 3-4 than there are in a 4-3. June also has no experience as an ILB. He's a coverage LB. He's not great at defending the run. He was actually one of the weaker parts and biggest problems for the Colts run defense woes. He's a playmaker in coverage though and slips into his zones very quickly. He's a terrible fit for the 3-4.
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

Chiefs- Dwight freeney
Texans- Who really cares at this point.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
I knew you were going to say that...I was just waiting for you to do so. Edwards was also 2 or 3 inches taller than June. He also was much better at taking on blockers. There are more free blockers to take on LBs in a 3-4 than there are in a 4-3. June also has no experience as an ILB. He's a coverage LB. He's not great at defending the run. He was actually one of the weaker parts and biggest problems for the Colts run defense woes. He's a playmaker in coverage though and slips into his zones very quickly. He's a terrible fit for the 3-4.
Edwards is not much better than June at taking on blockers. He was constantly criticized for mainly making takles 6 yards past the line of scrimage. June is a fast LB that would help with pass coverage which the Chargers need. They have maybe the best NT in that game that gets double and triple teamed every play and that would help free June to use his speed. You say June is not that great at defending the run but he is no less than Edwards was at defending the run. I think June could be a solid inside backer in the 3/4 if he has the right players around him and I think he would be almost a clone of what Edwards was when he was there.
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

Chiefs- Dwight freeney
Texans- Who really cares at this point.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
I knew you were going to say that...I was just waiting for you to do so. Edwards was also 2 or 3 inches taller than June. He also was much better at taking on blockers. There are more free blockers to take on LBs in a 3-4 than there are in a 4-3. June also has no experience as an ILB. He's a coverage LB. He's not great at defending the run. He was actually one of the weaker parts and biggest problems for the Colts run defense woes. He's a playmaker in coverage though and slips into his zones very quickly. He's a terrible fit for the 3-4.
Edwards is not much better than June at taking on blockers. He was constantly criticized for mainly making takles 6 yards past the line of scrimage. June is a fast LB that would help with pass coverage which the Chargers need. They have maybe the best NT in that game that gets double and triple teamed every play and that would help free June to use his speed. You say June is not that great at defending the run but he is no less than Edwards was at defending the run. I think June could be a solid inside backer in the 3/4 if he has the right players around him and I think he would be almost a clone of what Edwards was when he was there.
No offense, but you just told me and everyone else you have never watched June play. That is the worst analysis of him I've ever heard. He does not fit a 3-4. It won't happen at all. It would be one of the worst signings in the league if they were dumb enough to do that. June is fast because he's a DB in any other defense except for a cover 2. I find it funny that you support Edwards when he's apart of your team, but bash him when he's on his way out. I mean he's only lead the Chargers in tackles for the last 5 seasons that he's been apart of the team, but he doesn't fight through blockers well? Any linebacker that gets as many tackles as he does in a 3-4 defense fights through plenty of blocks to get them. He's one of the best in the NFL at taking on blockers. I actually put him and Zach Thomas as the top two MLBs at fighting through blockers. Williams is good, but he's not taking on triple teams. No one is triple teamed in the NFL. Edwards has had almost double the tackles of any player on the team every season he's been there. He lead the team in tackles in 2004 despite only playing in 9 games. He's one of the biggest pieces of that defense and you compare him to Cato June when it comes to taking on blockers? That's an insult. June is a great player in the right system. Edwards is a great LB in every system.
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

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Texans- Who really cares at this point.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
I knew you were going to say that...I was just waiting for you to do so. Edwards was also 2 or 3 inches taller than June. He also was much better at taking on blockers. There are more free blockers to take on LBs in a 3-4 than there are in a 4-3. June also has no experience as an ILB. He's a coverage LB. He's not great at defending the run. He was actually one of the weaker parts and biggest problems for the Colts run defense woes. He's a playmaker in coverage though and slips into his zones very quickly. He's a terrible fit for the 3-4.
Edwards is not much better than June at taking on blockers. He was constantly criticized for mainly making takles 6 yards past the line of scrimage. June is a fast LB that would help with pass coverage which the Chargers need. They have maybe the best NT in that game that gets double and triple teamed every play and that would help free June to use his speed. You say June is not that great at defending the run but he is no less than Edwards was at defending the run. I think June could be a solid inside backer in the 3/4 if he has the right players around him and I think he would be almost a clone of what Edwards was when he was there.
No offense, but you just told me and everyone else you have never watched June play. That is the worst analysis of him I've ever heard. He does not fit a 3-4. It won't happen at all. It would be one of the worst signings in the league if they were dumb enough to do that. June is fast because he's a DB in any other defense except for a cover 2. I find it funny that you support Edwards when he's apart of your team, but bash him when he's on his way out. I mean he's only lead the Chargers in tackles for the last 5 seasons that he's been apart of the team, but he doesn't fight through blockers well? Any linebacker that gets as many tackles as he does in a 3-4 defense fights through plenty of blocks to get them. He's one of the best in the NFL at taking on blockers. I actually put him and Zach Thomas as the top two MLBs at fighting through blockers. Williams is good, but he's not taking on triple teams. No one is triple teamed in the NFL. Edwards has had almost double the tackles of any player on the team every season he's been there. He lead the team in tackles in 2004 despite only playing in 9 games. He's one of the biggest pieces of that defense and you compare him to Cato June when it comes to taking on blockers? That's an insult. June is a great player in the right system. Edwards is a great LB in every system.
I have watched June play and I think he could play in the 3/4 defense if he has the right players around him. It's your OPINION that he can't play in the 3/4 defense, and how do you know he can't if he has never played it? When did I ever say Edwards was good at stoping the run? If he is soo great why wouldn't Smith give him the money he deserved? He is a great tackler, but tackles people 6 yards behind the line of scrimage. He is not that good at taking on blockers. He is fast and agile like June and is a great coverage LB. He gets all of his tackles because of his speed, not because he can take on blockers good. You need to watch film on him before you say he can take on blockers good. Edwards was constantly criticized for always making tackles behind the line of scrimage. June would basically do what Edwards did.... Use his speed to make tackles and be good in coverage.
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I'd like to see the Chargers get Cato June to replace Edwards.
June would be slaughtered in a 3-4 defense. He has to be protected to be effective. He's a cover 2 LB and nothing more. He's much too small to take on blockers. 6' 220 lbs.
June is a converted safety so that shows his size. He needs a D line in front of him to let him roam he would make no sence with the Bolts.

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Texans- Who really cares at this point.

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Do you not remember Edwards size? Edwards was about 225. .I think June would do fine in back of big Jamal
I knew you were going to say that...I was just waiting for you to do so. Edwards was also 2 or 3 inches taller than June. He also was much better at taking on blockers. There are more free blockers to take on LBs in a 3-4 than there are in a 4-3. June also has no experience as an ILB. He's a coverage LB. He's not great at defending the run. He was actually one of the weaker parts and biggest problems for the Colts run defense woes. He's a playmaker in coverage though and slips into his zones very quickly. He's a terrible fit for the 3-4.
Edwards is not much better than June at taking on blockers. He was constantly criticized for mainly making takles 6 yards past the line of scrimage. June is a fast LB that would help with pass coverage which the Chargers need. They have maybe the best NT in that game that gets double and triple teamed every play and that would help free June to use his speed. You say June is not that great at defending the run but he is no less than Edwards was at defending the run. I think June could be a solid inside backer in the 3/4 if he has the right players around him and I think he would be almost a clone of what Edwards was when he was there.
No offense, but you just told me and everyone else you have never watched June play. That is the worst analysis of him I've ever heard. He does not fit a 3-4. It won't happen at all. It would be one of the worst signings in the league if they were dumb enough to do that. June is fast because he's a DB in any other defense except for a cover 2. I find it funny that you support Edwards when he's apart of your team, but bash him when he's on his way out. I mean he's only lead the Chargers in tackles for the last 5 seasons that he's been apart of the team, but he doesn't fight through blockers well? Any linebacker that gets as many tackles as he does in a 3-4 defense fights through plenty of blocks to get them. He's one of the best in the NFL at taking on blockers. I actually put him and Zach Thomas as the top two MLBs at fighting through blockers. Williams is good, but he's not taking on triple teams. No one is triple teamed in the NFL. Edwards has had almost double the tackles of any player on the team every season he's been there. He lead the team in tackles in 2004 despite only playing in 9 games. He's one of the biggest pieces of that defense and you compare him to Cato June when it comes to taking on blockers? That's an insult. June is a great player in the right system. Edwards is a great LB in every system.
I have watched June play and I think he could play in the 3/4 defense if he has the right players around him. It's your OPINION that he can't play in the 3/4 defense, and how do you know he can't if he has never played it? When did I ever say Edwards was good at stoping the run? If he is soo great why wouldn't Smith give him the money he deserved? He is a great tackler, but tackles people 6 yards behind the line of scrimage. He is not that good at taking on blockers. He is fast and agile like June and is a great coverage LB. He gets all of his tackles because of his speed, not because he can take on blockers good. You need to watch film on him before you say he can take on blockers good. Edwards was constantly criticized for always making tackles behind the line of scrimage. June would basically do what Edwards did.... Use his speed to make tackles and be good in coverage.
I've watched Edwards since he came into the league. I know his game very well. He is one of the best LBs at taking on blockers. A.J. Smith not giving him a contract is a mistake and I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. It's the 2nd dumbest thing that Smith will be doing this year. Quoting him as your source for Edwards not being great is a terrible choice. Smith has been an idiot so far in this offseason. Edwards is one of the best at taking on blockers...I think just about any scout would say the same thing about him. June would be squashed in a 3-4. Call it an opinion....personally, I find it to be a fact. He gets squashed in run defense in a 4-3. Why would he be good in a 3-4 with less protection?
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