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So I decided to come up with my own Playoff System just for fun.

Here is what I think should go.

No Pre Season Polls.

After Week 6 the first polls are released.

After Week 8 the first BCS Standings are released.

12 Team Playoffs

Top 4 Rated BCS Teams get a bye. You do not have to be a Conference Champion to receive a Bye.

Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 Champions get an automatic bid to the Playoffs. These are the ONLY TEAMS THAT GET AN AUTOMATIC BID

6 At Large playoff teams are determine from their final order in the BCS. Doesn’t matter what conference your in or if you’re an independent or not. You hear that all you non major confernence teams.

So for this year it’d look like this…

#1 Ohio State (Big Ten Champ) - Bye

#8 Boise State (At Large) vs. #9 Auburn (At Large)


#4 LSU (At Large) - Bye

#5 USC (Pac -10 Champ) vs. #12 Wake Forest (ACC Champ)


#3 Michigan (At Large) - Bye

#6 Louisville (Big East Champ) vs. #11 Notre Dame (At Large)


#7 Wisconsin (At Large) vs. #10 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ)

#2 Florida (SEC Champ) - Bye

Wake Forest gets in because they won the ACC Title. They are the only team outside of the top 12 of the Final BCS Standings to get in but they get an automatic bid because of the ACC Conference Title.

So there is still controversy for those who like it that way.. Arkansas gets snubbed..

1st round games start December 16th Gator Bowl, Outback Bowl, Alamo Bowl, and Peach Bowl.

2nd round games start December 23rd Sugar Bowl, Capital One Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and Cotton Bowl.

Semis Start December 30th Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl

National Title January 13th Location varies ever year.

At most it's 4 extra games. If the schools are so concerned over their players health then they can take away one non conference game for every team. So then at most 3 more games and 2 more games if you get the bye.

Don't say the games don't mean anything either. Arkansas gets snubbed and they just played in the SEC Title so every game continues to count and your fighting for a 1st round bye.

Would really be nice to see some of those games. Wisconsin vs. OU and Louisville vs. ND.. I don't see how this can't be better for the game.

Obviously this is just my speculation on what a playoff system would look like. You can do an 8 Team Playoff as well or just take the top 4 BCS Teams or even top 6 BCS Teams and have the top 2 get a bye. In my opinion though a formula like this would create more drama and you'd have no problem crowning an Undisputed Champion.

So who you like.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:47 AM
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I like the idea of a playoff but I think you would have to do it with 8 teams... 16 would be too many games and I dont think the schools should be interested. Other then that it sounds good to me.

IMO if you went with 8 teams you could have 2 different tiers of playoffs, one for the top 8 teams and one for the next 8... its kinda a wierd idea but I think it would have more of a mass appeal which is what you need to get something like this to happen
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If they do it with 8 then I think they need to take the top 8 from the BCS Standings whether they're conference Champs or not. The 12 at least gave all 6 conference Champs a shot plus 6 at large. 8 would only be 2 and I rather have Wisconsin and Auburn playing for it than Wake Forest.
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I dunno about Wisconsin, and that will strike a chord with a lot of you guys, but atleast Wake beat Georgia Tech... Im not sure how Wisconsin is ranked so high
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I dunno about Wisconsin, and that will strike a chord with a lot of you guys, but atleast Wake beat Georgia Tech... Im not sure how Wisconsin is ranked so high
Georgia Tech is unranked in most polls.
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Even still they are better than any team Wisconsin beat by quite a bit
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Even still they are better than any team Wisconsin beat by quite a bit
Then Boise State deserves no BCS Bowl by going by that logic.

Georgia Tech is probably on the same level of Penn State and Iowa this year.

They've lost 2 straight and to a Georgia team that lost to Vandy and Kentucky.

Comparing Wake to Wisconsin is apples and oranges. Wake is a great story but their not on the level of an elite Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, Pac-10, Big 12, or even Big East team. ACC is that bad this year.
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Georgia Tech is because Wake forest beat them. They were both ranked when they played for the ACC Championship.

To be honest. I like the way it is now. I think that no matter how you change it, coaches like Urban Meyer will still whine about how unfair it still is. Plus with a playoff system like the 12 team, that would take away 10 teams's chances at getting into a bowl game. So there is 10 teams, that amount increasing each year, that would hate this system. Eventually there would be some many teams complaining and bashing the system about how they got screwed out of a bowl game because of this, that they would basically be forced to go back to how it is now.

It would be nice to see but I don't think it would ever work. Just fix the system that we have now. Maybe install a game between the teams in question (Florida and Michigan) and then the winner goes to face the #1 team, and the loser plays in whatever bowl they would have gone to anyways.
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Georgia Tech is because Wake forest beat them. They were both ranked when they played for the ACC Championship.

To be honest. I like the way it is now. I think that no matter how you change it, coaches like Urban Meyer will still whine about how unfair it still is. Plus with a playoff system like the 12 team, that would take away 10 teams's chances at getting into a bowl game. So there is 10 teams, that amount increasing each year, that would hate this system. Eventually there would be some many teams complaining and bashing the system about how they got screwed out of a bowl game because of this, that they would basically be forced to go back to how it is now.

It would be nice to see but I don't think it would ever work. Just fix the system that we have now. Maybe install a game between the teams in question (Florida and Michigan) and then the winner goes to face the #1 team, and the loser plays in whatever bowl they would have gone to anyways.
Having a playoff system would definitely change some expectations for Bowl Games.

For one they couldn't take any 6 win teams no more and that's a huge PLUS as well. Miami and Florida State don't deserve Bowl games this year and winning 6 games a year is not a hard thing to do. Getting to a Bowl game used to be a big thing. Now it doesn't mean much. With a playoff they'd be forced to take teams who win 7 and 8 games and it would make all Bowl games more meaningful.

As for 10 teams hating a BCS Playoff. There are far more teams that hate the current system right now. The 10 teams who would hate this would be 6-5 and 6-6 teams who honestly don't deserve to play in a Bowl game anyways.

Coaches will always complain and they always do in every sport. The difference is this system is very flawed. Their is a rule that states Notre Dame gets an automatic bid if they rank #8 or higher in the BCS. It's equivalent to winning a Conference Title. That rule is complete BS. Notre Dame should join the Big Ten or Big East if they want an automatic bid. They should have the same rules apply to them as anyone else. That also goes for the mid level conferences. If one goes unbeaten and ranks #12 they get an automatic bid. That's another very flawed rule. I have no problem putting an unbeaten in the BCS but #12 is to high. They should rank much higher in my opinion or get rid of the rule altogether.

This is just an example as well. They could do it NFL Style and have 6 teams from the BCS and have the top 2 seeds receive the bye and have #3 vs. #6 and #4 vs. #5. Have the lowest seed play the #1 Seed and the other one play the #2 seed. In fact that's 5 Games right there and they could just use the Bowl Games for the Playoffs.

As for Georgia Tech if they lose their Bowl game that’ll give them 5 loses. Being ranked when you beat you doesn’t really matter much. Last year Tennessee and Oklahoma were very high ranked teams and lost early to some teams and Tennessee didn’t even make a Bowl Game. You didn’t see people complaining that Florida beat a high ranked Tennessee team early on. Wake won the worst major conference in football this year. Great story but not one of the 8 best teams in college football.
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If you are going to have a playoff system, at all, then just take the teams that win their conference from the major ones (ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, SEC) like you said above. I mean you would still get the "But Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country" stuff but I think that in order to play in a BSC game, you have to win your comference. Michigan would make it better but again they didn't win their conference. Plus with a playoff system like this, then we could find out which conference is the best and which are weaker. Each conference would send their best and then the best team/ conference would win.

Though I think the one we have right now is workable, if you're going to change it to a playoff system, then this is the way I believe it should be done.
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