2nd Rounder

[ktpackerfan]

I had a little fun with some of the picks to see what you guys thought. All I have to say is fire away.

1.
Houston Texans Bush, Reggie, RB USC
2.
New Orleans Saints Leinart, Matt, QB USC
3.
Tennessee Titans Young, Vincent, QB Texas
4.
New York Jets Ferguson, D'Brickashaw, OT Virginia
5.
Green Bay Packers Williams, Mario, DE North Carolina St
6.
San Francisco 49ers Hawk, A.J., OLB Ohio St.
7.
Oakland Raiders Davis, Vernon, TE Maryland
8.
Buffalo Bills Ngata, Haloti, DT Oregon
9.
Detroit Lions Cutler, Jay, QB Vanderbilt
10.
Arizona Cardinals White, LenDale, RB USC
11.
St. Louis Rams Huff, Michael, S Texas
12.
Cleveland Browns Williams, DeAngelo, RB Memphis
13.
Baltimore Ravens Justice, Winston, OT USC
14.
Philadelphia Eagles Greenway, Chad, OLB Iowa
15.
Atlanta Falcons Williams, Jimmy, CB Virginia Tech
16.
Miami Dolphins McNeill, Marcus, OT Auburn
17.
Minnesota Vikings Maroney, Laurence, RB Minnesota
18.
Dallas Cowboys Holmes, Santonio, WR Ohio St.
19.
San Diego Chargers Hill, Tye, CB Clemson
20.
Kansas City Chiefs Jackson, Chad, WR Florida
21.
New England Patriots Simpson, Ko, S South Carolina
22.
Denver Broncos Lewis, Marcedes, TE UCLA
23.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Hali, Tamba, DE Penn St.
24.
Cincinnati Bengals Bing, Darnell, S USC
25.
New York Giants Ryans, DeMeco, OLB Alabama
26.
Chicago Bears Pope, Leonard, TE Georgia
27.
Carolina Panthers Bunkley, Brodrick, DT Florida St.
28.
Jacksonville Jaguars Cromartie, Antonio, CB Florida St
29.
Denver Broncos Kiwanuka, Mathias, DE Boston College
30.
Indianapolis Colts Howard, Thomas, OLB UTEP
31.
Seattle Seahawks Moss, Sinorice, WR Miami (FL)
32.
Pittsburgh Steelers Lawson, Manny, DE North Carolina St.
33.
Houston Texans Jean-Gilles, Max, OG Georgia
34.
New Orleans Saints Jackson, D'Qwell, ILB Maryland
35.
New York Jets Carpenter, Bobby, OLB Ohio St.
36.
Green Bay Packers Sims, Ernie, OLB Florida St.
37.
San Francisco 49ers Youboty, Ashton, CB Ohio St.
38.
Oakland Raiders Wright, Rodrique, DT Texas
39.
Tennessee Titans Scott, Jonathan, OT Texas
40.
Detroit Lions Winston, Eric, OT Miami (FL)
41.
Arizona Cardinals Croyle, Brodie, QB Alabama
42.
Buffalo Bills Wroten, Claude, DT LSU
43.
Cleveland Browns Watson, Gabe, DT Michigan
44.
Baltimore Ravens Mangold, Nick, C Ohio St.
45.
Philadelphia Eagles Hagan, Derek, WR Arizona St.
46.
St. Louis Rams Byrd, Dominique, TE USC
47.
Atlanta Falcons Addai, Joseph, RB LSU
48.
Minnesota Vikings Lutui, Taitusi, OG USC
49.
Dallas Cowboys Watkins, Pat, S Florida St.
50.
San Diego Chargers Joseph, Davin, OG Oklahoma
51.
Miami Dolphins Jacobs, Omar, QB Bowling Green
52.
New England Patriots Drew, Maurice, RB UCLA
53.
Washington Redskins Avant, Jason, WR Michigan
54.
Kansas City Chiefs Marshall, Richard, CB Fresno St.
55.
Cincinnati Bengals Harris, Orien, DT Miami (FL)
56.
New York Giants O'Callaghan, Ryan, OT California
57.
Chicago Bears Colledge, Daryn, OT Boise St.
58.
Carolina Panthers Fasno, Anthony, TE Notre Dame
59.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trueblood, Jeremy, OT Boston College
60.
Jacksonville Jaguars Spencer, Charles, OG Pittsburgh
61.
Denver Broncos Blue, Greg, S Georgia
62.
Indianapolis Colts Calhoun, Brian, RB Wisconsin
63.
Seattle Seahawks Joseph, Jonathan, CB South Carolina
64.
Pittsburgh Steelers Hester, Devin, CB Miami (FL)


Comments needed. Want to have a good mock. Need feedback. I beg of you.

[Kinsm]

Alright, ktpackerfan...here are a few comments, that I think most would agree with me on...

1. Cleveland- they don't need a rb, they just resigned droughns to an extension. Meaning DeAngelo Williams will fall, if AZ & SF don't take him....but if that happens I think a team like INDY will be able to trade up for him on draft day...with a team that is rebuilding...I.E. Detroit or Cleveland are prime for a trade down.

2. Dallas- their primary need in my eyes is a NT, and I think Gabe Watson will be one of those they are thinking about taking with that pick.

3. Kansas City- they don't have much youth in their DT depth, and the little that they do have is underperforming. I think they go Bunkley, but they could take a WR.

4. New England- they have 9 or 10 picks this draft, and they need most of them, however I think they need a RB more than anything and may be like Indy --> trading up to grab Williams.

5. Denver- they definitely have a need at TE now, however if Dallas and KC pick the way I propose, they will have a shot at grabbing either Holmes or Jackson with their first pick. Plus, if they do go for a TE..it will be Pope and not Lewis. With all the draft board movement over the past 2 weeks, I think Marcedes will be the one unfortunate person to drop out of the first round.

6. Carolina- they proved in the playoffs that they have a strong d., but they also proved that they need alot more offensive weapons around Delhomme. They could go Moss, Lewis, Byrd, or another WR that might drop.

7. Indy- I already stated that no matter who anyone projects them to get, that they're one of the two most likely teams to trade up for DeAngelo. However, if they don't trade up; don't be totally suprised if they take Addai with this pick.

8. Houston- Mangold has proven that he can play G or C, and has the potential to be a pro-bowler at either position. He could even go to Pittsburgh with the 32nd pick. But I think it's safe to say Houston will go with Mangold or Winston with their second pick if they don't get D'Brick in the first.

Players too low: Gabe Watson as mentioned, Jonathon Joseph is a top 50 pick.

Players that should be in your draft: Donte Whitner has definitely upped his stock these past couple of weeks, he could even be a 1st rounder, Jason Allen is a very solid S and has proven he's healthy..he should be in your top 64, Kamerion Wimbley is a top 50 pick and should be in your draft, I feel strongly that Martin Nance is a top 64 pick and I don't think the Steelers will allow him to get by them in the second round.

Players too high: Ko Simpson is a little high, Jason Avant is probably a 3rd rounder, Brian Calhoun is probably a 3rd rounder...and possibly even Drew, Devin Hester is probably a second day pick.

Without the changes that I see, their are probably still a few more comments, but I think they'll disappear if those changes were made.

I think most of my comments, everyone will agree on, some maybe not. I hope this helps.

[mrdv1]

interesting, I think besides about 4 or 5 guys You have the rankings good like who should go at about what picks, but for some you have teams picking a position they wouldn't, case in point Oakland and Cleveland. Williams and Davis r both worthy of those number picks, but oakland has a decent TE and Cleveland has Rueban Drougns and Lee Suggs, not to mention William Green, a former first rounder, as a back up. There was a few other wacky ones in there, like Colledge is a 2nd day pick now and probably the same for hester.

[The Swami]

Originally Posted by mrdv1 interesting, I think besides about 4 or 5 guys You have the rankings good like who should go at about what picks, but for some you have teams picking a position they wouldn't, case in point Oakland and Cleveland. Williams and Davis r both worthy of those number picks, but oakland has a decent TE and Cleveland has Rueban Drougns and Lee Suggs, not to mention William Green, a former first rounder, as a back up. There was a few other wacky ones in there, like Colledge is a 2nd day pick now and probably the same for hester.

Exactly which TE are you calling decent in Oakland? Courtney Anderson? The guy that had only 300 yrds and 3 tds. Just to put this in comparison, GBs third TE Donald Lee, TEN third TE Bo Scaife, the Jet's Chris Baker, and AZ's Adam Bergen all had comparable stats last year. Baker did it in half as many games too. Not to mention all of the #2 TEs or the #1 TEs that did better. Oakland didnt allocate any TEs and didnt have any on the practice squad. Personally, I think that is a great prediction of a pick. Seems to fit Al Davis perfectly. I just feel sorry for Vernon if he does go there.

[cubuffsman78]

Originally Posted by The Swami Originally Posted by mrdv1 interesting, I think besides about 4 or 5 guys You have the rankings good like who should go at about what picks, but for some you have teams picking a position they wouldn't, case in point Oakland and Cleveland. Williams and Davis r both worthy of those number picks, but oakland has a decent TE and Cleveland has Rueban Drougns and Lee Suggs, not to mention William Green, a former first rounder, as a back up. There was a few other wacky ones in there, like Colledge is a 2nd day pick now and probably the same for hester. Exactly which TE are you calling decent in Oakland? Courtney Anderson? The guy that had only 300 yrds and 3 tds. Just to put this in comparison, GBs third TE Donald Lee, TEN third TE Bo Scaife, the Jet's Chris Baker, and AZ's Adam Bergen all had comparable stats last year. Baker did it in half as many games too. Not to mention all of the #2 TEs or the #1 TEs that did better. Oakland didnt allocate any TEs and didnt have any on the practice squad. Personally, I think that is a great prediction of a pick. Seems to fit Al Davis perfectly. I just feel sorry for Vernon if he does go there.

Oakland didn't use their TEs correctly last season at all. They were obsessed with getting deep or getting a big play from Moss or Porter. I think Anderson is a very good TE if he gets used more...

Now this lil bit about the draft...I would post more on it but i'm short on time...

Donte Whitner is a 1st round pick and would've gone to Dallas at 18. The Cowboys have needs a OT, FS, NT, ILB and then WR in that order. You have Justice and McNeill gone. I think Whitner is more valuable than Watson at that pick. Whitner is a big time prospect. He really needs to be on more 1st round radars in this forum than he is cause I promise he's on every team's 1st round radar.

I think Chad Greenway is no longer a top 15 pick and that Manny Lawson is. Greenway had a weak combine....literally. He had the lowest bench reps of any LB at the draft. Lawson is 6'6 251 and ran a 4.43 40.

Jonathan Joseph is also a 1st round pick to me. 4.31 40...Nuff said.

There's more but that's what I can think of off-hand.

[TNMK]

Holmes and Watkins.

While I don't like the idea of drafting a WR in the first, I wouldn't mind it.

I just can't see us overlooking ILB and OT in the first two rounds.

[cb9464]

Greenway's the pick in Round 1. Hagan is not the pick in Round 2. It's Maurice Stovall or if not him, then Sinorice Moss.