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I just can't stop
I usually try to restrain from putting out too many mocks, but I just can't help myself this year. Here it is.
2 rounds, short descriptions.
Round 1
1. DET - Matt Stafford, QB Georgia
Just because Culpepper is the starter now, doesn't mean he's the long term option. So far, the Lions have shown more interest in Stafford than any other prospect.
2. STL - Aaron Curry, LB Wake Forest
Steve Spagnuolo will be frothing at the mouth to get a player like Curry. He's the best player in this draft.
3. KC - Michael Crabtree, WR Texas Tech.
Injury or not, Crabtree is still BPA here. Todd Haley would love to have a dynamic duo at WR like he did with Arizona to help Cassel out.
4. SEA - Jason Smith, OT Baylor
Seattle could go with Smith or Raji here, but I think they'll be content with having Colin Cole and Red Bryant battle it out for a spot beside Mebane, so Smith it is.
5. CLE - Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB Texas
The "Orak attack", or Or'sack'po, is exactly what Cleveland needs for Rob Ryan's hybrid defense he's implementing.
6. CIN - BJ Raji, DT Boston Col.
The Bengals get a much needed DT here and the BPA.
7. OAK - Michael Oher, OT Ole Miss.
Oher is the #2 tackle behind Jason Smith, and with the Cable guy at head coach, the Raiders will finally address their biggest need and take a tackle here.
8. JAC - Jeremy Maclin, WR Missouri
Jacksonville is still searching for a legit #1 WR. Maclin could be the real deal.
9. GB - Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB Penn St.
The Packers need a pass rusher opposite Aaron Kampman in their new 3-4 scheme.
10. SF - Eugene Monroe, OT Virginia
San Fran goes BPA here over their need at QB and pass rusher.
11. BUF - Everette Brown, DE Florida St.
A lot of people think Brown is too short to play at DE at 6'1". However, Dwight Freeney is only 6'1" as well, Derrick Burgess is 6'2" and Elvis Dumervil is only 5'11". It's all about how they play, and on film, Brown is a force.
12. DEN - Rey Maualuga, ILB USC
Denver needs LBs desperately if they want to switch to a 3-4 defense. Maualuga is a good start.
13. WAS - Andre Smith, OT Alabama
Smith's too talented to see his stock fall much further than this.
14. NO - Brian Cushing, LB USC
The Saints held onto Vilma, but they could still use help at OLB. Cushing is the BPA here.
15. HOU - Malcolm Jenkins, DB Ohio St.
The Texans would be thrilled if Jenkins were still on the board here.
16. SD - Sean Smith, DB Utah
Smith has the size, speed and tape to back up being the 2nd DB off the board. His versatility is key for SD, as they can groom him at CB or S.
17. NYJ - Mark Sanchez, QB USC
With Sanchez still on the board, they opt to go QB before getting a wideout.
18. CHI - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR Maryland
Somebodies going to reach for him based on his athleticism. Chicago is desperate for WRs.
19. TB - Peria Jerry, DT Ole Miss.
With Sanchez off the board, the Bucs upgrade their aging defensive line.
20. DET (via DAL) - James Laurinaitis, MLB Ohio St.
The Lions are still looking for a quality MLB. Ernie Sims is currently the only LB that should be starting on this roster.
21. PHI - Knowshon Moreno, RB Georgia
Westbrook and Moreno could make a dynamic duo in the backfield.
22. MIN - Alphonso Smith, CB Wake Forest
Alphonso Smith can play in the nickel year one, and is the perfect replacement for the eventual departure of Antoine Winfield.
23. NE - Vontae Davis, CB Illinois
The Pats secondary is a mess right now. They signed Bodden and Springs to short term deals, so Davis can be groomed for a year with Wheatley, before they take over as the starters.
24. ATL - Louis Delmas, S Western Michigan
With the release of Lawyer Milloy, the Falcons could use help at safety. Delmas is a clone of Bob Sanders.
25. MIA - Larry English, DE/OLB Northern Illinois
English is perfect for Miami's hybrid scheme. He and Joey Porter could be a scary pass rushing duo.
26. BAL - DJ Moore, CB Vanderbilt
Moore's value dropped a bit at the combine when he ran slower than expected. Still, Baltimore needs help at corner, and this isn't too high for him.
27. IND - Robert Ayers, DL Tennessee
Ayers is exactly what Indy's looking for at DT.
28. PHI (via CAR) - Brandon Pettigrew, TE Oklahoma St.
McNabb finally gets that big TE option he's been asking for.
29. NYG - Kenny Britt, WR Rutgers
The Giants have been loading up on defense early in the FA, so expect them to go offense with this pick. Britt is a great replacement for Plaxico Burress.
30. TEN - Percy Harvin, WR Florida
Harvin may fall because a lack of a true position. Tennessee however will find a place to use his play making ability.
31. ARI - Chris Wells, RB Ohio St.
The Cards are thrilled to have Beanie Wells fall this far, this is a no brainer.
32. PIT - Darius Butler, CB Connecticut
Butler is jumping up boards lately, and with the loss of Bryant McFadden, the Steelers could use some help at corner.
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03-12-2009, 09:09 PM
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Round 2
1. DET - William Beatty, OT Connecticut
BPA and a tackle to help block for Stafford.
2. NE (via KC) - Connor Barwin, DE/OLB Cincinnati
Could there be a better replacement for Mike Vrabel?
3. STL - Eben Britton, OT Arizona
After going defense in round one, they get a tackle to help the disaster at OT.
4. CLE - Donald Brown, RB Connecticut
Brown helped himself into the #3 RB spot at the combine.
5. SEA - LeSean McCoy, RB Pitt
His injury hurt his stock a bit, he's still neck and neck with Donald Brown though.
6. CIN - Alex Mack, C Cal
Cinci needs all the help it can get on the o-line. Mack is a fantastic value here.
7. JAC - Evander Hood, DT Missouri
Ziggy Hood is a solid replacement for Marcus Stroud who they traded away last year.
8. OAK - Michael Johnson, DE Georgia Tech.
How can Al Davis pass on an athletic freak like Johnson?
9. GB - Tyson Jackson, DE LSU
Probably the best 3-4 DE in this draft. The Packers continue drafting for the transition.
10. BUF - Jared Cook, TE South Carolina
Cook helped himself big at the combine, but he's not just a workout warrior.
11. SF - Clay Matthews, LB USC
Matthews is a versatile guy that can rush the passer opposite Manny Lawson.
12. MIA (via WAS) - Hakeem Nicks, WR UNC
Miami's still a bit thin at WR. Nicks is a dependable guy who Pennington would love to have.
13. NYG (via NO) - Paul Kruger, DE Utah
Like Kiwanuka, Kruger could help at DE or OLB.
14. HOU - Rashad Johnson, S Alabama
Even after getting Jenkins in the first, the Texans could still look to their weak secondary here.
15. NE (via SD) - Max Unger, OL Oregon
Unger gives the Pats versatility, something they love in their olineman.
16. DEN - Jarron Gilbert, DE San Jose St.
Gilbert is an impressive athlete, who is a great fit at 3-4 DE.
17. CHI - Kraig Urbik, OG Wisconsin
The Bears oline is in youth transition right now, and Urbik is quickly rising up boards ahead of Herman Johnson and Duke Robinson.
18. CLE (via TB) - Jairus Byrd, CB Oregon
Cleveland's corner situation is very shotty.
19. DAL - Patrick Chung, S Oregon
An aggressive, hard hitting safety to replace Roy Williams. However, unlike Williams, Chung can cover as well.
20. PHI - Jamon Meredith, OT South Carolina
Tra Thomas signed with the Jags, and Jon Runyan could be moving as well.
21. NYJ - Brian Robiskie, WR Ohio St.
Robiskie looked very polished at the combine, and solidified himself in the 2nd round.
22. MIN - Josh Freeman, QB Kansas St.
Freeman's stock took a dive at the combine, he no long has a shot for the 1st round. But Minnesota is desperate for a QB, so they'll take their chance with him here.
23. ATL - Tyrone McKenzie, OLB USF
With Brooking and Boley signing elsewhere, the Falcons all of a sudden have a large need at LB.
24. MIA - Ron Brace, DT Boston Col.
Brace is the prototypical NT, and Jason Ferguson is just getting too old for Miami to rely on him.
25. BAL - Clint Sintim, LB Virginia
Sintim was once considered a 1st round prospect, so the Ravens would be thrilled to get him here.
26. NE - Chase Coffman, TE Missouri
A nice option at TE who can block and catch passes.
27. CAR - Shawn Nelson, TE Southern Miss.
Nelson's done a great job of rising his stock, and Carolina could use a pass catching TE.
28. NYG - Shonn Greene, RB Iowa
Greene can be Derrick Ward's replacement in earth, wind and fire.
29. IND - Marcus Freeman, LB Ohio St.
Indi is great at finding serviceable LBs and then replacing them. Freddie Keiaho is on the way out, Freeman on the way in.
30. TEN - Fili Moala, DT USC
Moala doesn't have the size of recently departed Albert Haynesworth, but he's the best option here to replace him.
31. ARI - Eric Wood, C Louisville
Arizona dips into the strong class of centers here.
32. PIT - Duke Robinson, OG Oklahoma
The Steelers resigned Chris Kemoeatu, but that doesn't mean they can't still go OG.
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03-12-2009, 09:36 PM
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I don't like Stafford to the Lions, but one can't deny the attention they're showing him. I do think they'll regret it. Mass changes and they still can't get it right.
You're going to get slammed for projecting Curry to the Rams over Smith. I agree with you, though. Curry is one of the best, if not the best, LB prospect in the history of the draft. It's also a deep OT class. There's as much argument for Curry there as there is for Smith.
I don't rate Crabtree BPA there. I actually dropped him to fourth on my board. I like Smith better and OL is a more pressing need in KC.
You'll be slammed for the Oher pick as well. Again, I don't mind it. I do think Oakland might pass,though. 1) Maclin is on the board and let's remember Al Davis. 2) Oher is admittedly boom or bust, although I think he's boom. Still, Monroe is the safer pick and Oakland has recently been burned on a boom or bust in Robert Gallery.
I like Sean Smith as much as the next guy, but I don't think he's climbed into the top 20. I do not hate the projection and agree with the sense of it.
I'm climbing onto the Heyward-Bey bandwagon. I think he is a lot more than just a Troy Williamson. It's been a slow conversion for me, but his pro day has him the toast of the WR class right now.
Thank you! Moreno over Wells to Philly. He fits the Eagles scheme 10 times better. Forget about all the talk of power running. Reid doesn't go for power backs! He had a solid one in Tony Hunt, who was good in short yardage and goal line situations. He cut him! No, Hunt isn't Wells, but Moreno is much more proven in his versatility and could spell Westy.
Butler will go higher than that. I think he's definitely the No. 3 CB in this draft and maybe No. 2.
Matthews is an absolute first rounder for me.
I actually don't think Kruger can play OLB, especially in a 4-3.
I'm in the minority with this I think, but I don't like Freeman in Day 1 at all. I like Stephen McGee a lot more than him and think he'll be the surprise No. 3 QB come draft day.
Sintim falls too far in my opinion. In fact, the Giants would value him over Kruger. I don't think he falls even that far in the second, though.
Solid mock.
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03-13-2009, 02:05 PM
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I think Monroe and Smith are clearly the consensus two top tackles in the draft.
Tyson Jackson is a first round pick. He's the best 3-4 DE in the draft and he's an incredible run stuffer.
Cushing plays the same position as Scott Fugita in the 4-3 and that's SAM. I can't see New Orleans grabbing Cushing. It's not a fit.
Offensive Lineman always go higher than usual. I think it's pretty safe to say six offensive lineman will go in the first round. I believe that is priority No. 1 when making a mock this year.
Ayers is a DE in the NFL. I can't see him playing DT even in the cover two because well he's more of a pass rusher and the Colts need a Peria Jerry type of player. They really should trade up for Jerry.
I think Moore has a hard time going in round one. He falls like Brandon Flowers did in my opinion.
Sean Smith, I like, but he's more of a late 1 or early 2nd..
Clay Matthews is a solid first rounder IMO.
I liked the Delmas to Falcons pick, but I think they'll be all over Brandon Pettigrew.
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03-13-2009, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by porky88
I think Monroe and Smith are clearly the consensus two top tackles in the draft.
Tyson Jackson is a first round pick. He's the best 3-4 DE in the draft and he's an incredible run stuffer.
Cushing plays the same position as Scott Fugita in the 4-3 and that's SAM. I can't see New Orleans grabbing Cushing. It's not a fit.
Offensive Lineman always go higher than usual. I think it's pretty safe to say six offensive lineman will go in the first round. I believe that is priority No. 1 when making a mock this year.
Ayers is a DE in the NFL. I can't see him playing DT even in the cover two because well he's more of a pass rusher and the Colts need a Peria Jerry type of player. They really should trade up for Jerry.
I think Moore has a hard time going in round one. He falls like Brandon Flowers did in my opinion.
Sean Smith, I like, but he's more of a late 1 or early 2nd..
Clay Matthews is a solid first rounder IMO.
I liked the Delmas to Falcons pick, but I think they'll be all over Brandon Pettigrew.
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Monroe is overrated IMHO. I really like Oher and have since the Senior Bowl. Monroe may be the "safer" of the two, but since when did Oakland draft "safely".
I could see Tyson Jackson falling out of the first based on need, not talent. He has 1st round talent, I just don't see any teams needing a 3-4 end other than SD and that's too high for him.
Scott Fujita is the player the Saints are looking to replace....
I don't think that's at all the truth. People get too carried away with theme's from the draft a year ago, and try to apply them to the upcoming year. Look 2 years ago, only 3 tackles went in the first round, and only Levi Brown went higher than expected. And again the year before that, only D'Brickashaw Ferguson went in the first round, in that draft Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil actually went lower than expected.
Now I admit this is a good group of OTs this year, especially at the top. But after those top 4, there's a slide, and I don't see Beatty or Britton as sure fire first rounders.
I think Ayers would be a great fit for Indi at DT. Peria Jerry is a better fit I agree, but he won't be around that late, and if they don't trade up, I think Ayers would be a solid fit. Kinda like a Jason Jones in Tennessee.
Moore is dropping on my board as well. He could be in the second round come next mock draft.
Smith is the most underrated player in this draft. He has all the intangibles, speed, size, attitude, versatility and looks great on film. He should be every bit in the conversation for the top couple DBs.
Matthews is a borderline 1st rounder to me. I just think there's so many of his type of Linebackers right now. With Connor Barwin emerging, there's so many of those versatile 3-4 LBs available. One or two could fall.
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Patrick Chung is the most underrated player in the draft.
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03-14-2009, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint33
Monroe is overrated IMHO. I really like Oher and have since the Senior Bowl. Monroe may be the "safer" of the two, but since when did Oakland draft "safely".
I could see Tyson Jackson falling out of the first based on need, not talent. He has 1st round talent, I just don't see any teams needing a 3-4 end other than SD and that's too high for him.
Scott Fujita is the player the Saints are looking to replace....
I don't think that's at all the truth. People get too carried away with theme's from the draft a year ago, and try to apply them to the upcoming year. Look 2 years ago, only 3 tackles went in the first round, and only Levi Brown went higher than expected. And again the year before that, only D'Brickashaw Ferguson went in the first round, in that draft Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil actually went lower than expected.
Now I admit this is a good group of OTs this year, especially at the top. But after those top 4, there's a slide, and I don't see Beatty or Britton as sure fire first rounders.
I think Ayers would be a great fit for Indi at DT. Peria Jerry is a better fit I agree, but he won't be around that late, and if they don't trade up, I think Ayers would be a solid fit. Kinda like a Jason Jones in Tennessee.
Moore is dropping on my board as well. He could be in the second round come next mock draft.
Smith is the most underrated player in this draft. He has all the intangibles, speed, size, attitude, versatility and looks great on film. He should be every bit in the conversation for the top couple DBs.
Matthews is a borderline 1st rounder to me. I just think there's so many of his type of Linebackers right now. With Connor Barwin emerging, there's so many of those versatile 3-4 LBs available. One or two could fall.
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Agree to disagree on Oher over Monroe then, but it's about what teams will do and not what you would do because obviously I would assume those are probably two different things. I mean, I wouldn't take Stafford No. 1 and I don't think you would either, but the Lions seem to be leaning that way.
3-4 DE's are some of the hardest players to come around. Tyson Jackson is easily a projected first round pick especially with so many teams playing the 3-4. Dick Lebeau wouldn't let Tyson Jackson fall past Pittsburgh.
The problem with your offensive lineman is your underestimating them tremendously IMO. Eben Britton is more in the line of a Sam Baker, but better. William Beatty is an excellent left tackle prospect and I admittedly wasn't high on him at first, but after watching him more, he's first round talent.
There is one theme to drafts. Lineman are always over drafted. They'll be years when the draft is not deep at lineman, but this is not one of those years. When it's deep, it's usually lineman heavy.
I think New Orelans needs a weakside linebacker. Fujita is a good SAM linebacker. He's not great, but you can win games with Scott Fujita as your SAM. They need a Keith Bullock like player and that's not Brian Cushing.
Ayers is an OLB in the 3-4 or a DE in the 4-3. What I was saying is Indy needs run defenders and not pass rushers. Ayers is a pass rusher. It's always nice to have pass rushers, but if they take Ayers, it's to be a DE probably for a replacement for Freeny or Mathis which I don't see right now.
Ayers is probably gone when they pick anyways. The Colts do draft for value though.
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03-14-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by porky88
Agree to disagree on Oher over Monroe then, but it's about what teams will do and not what you would do because obviously I would assume those are probably two different things. I mean, I wouldn't take Stafford No. 1 and I don't think you would either, but the Lions seem to be leaning that way.
3-4 DE's are some of the hardest players to come around. Tyson Jackson is easily a projected first round pick especially with so many teams playing the 3-4. Dick Lebeau wouldn't let Tyson Jackson fall past Pittsburgh.
The problem with your offensive lineman is your underestimating them tremendously IMO. Eben Britton is more in the line of a Sam Baker, but better. William Beatty is an excellent left tackle prospect and I admittedly wasn't high on him at first, but after watching him more, he's first round talent.
There is one theme to drafts. Lineman are always over drafted. They'll be years when the draft is not deep at lineman, but this is not one of those years. When it's deep, it's usually lineman heavy.
I think New Orelans needs a weakside linebacker. Fujita is a good SAM linebacker. He's not great, but you can win games with Scott Fujita as your SAM. They need a Keith Bullock like player and that's not Brian Cushing.
Ayers is an OLB in the 3-4 or a DE in the 4-3. What I was saying is Indy needs run defenders and not pass rushers. Ayers is a pass rusher. It's always nice to have pass rushers, but if they take Ayers, it's to be a DE probably for a replacement for Freeny or Mathis which I don't see right now.
Ayers is probably gone when they pick anyways. The Colts do draft for value though.
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I'll agree to disagree on the lineman.
From everything I've heard about NO, they like Scott Shanle, but are looking to replace Fujita. Fujita only started 13 games this year. That might have been because of injury though, I'm not sure. I'm just saying that from what I've heard, its Fujita that their trying to replace and Shanle that their content with.
I largely disagree with your stance on Ayers. He would not be drafted by a 3-4 team, because he's undersized at DE and does not translate at all to OLB. He's primarily a 4-3 player to me, and I think depending on the team, he could be used at either DE or DT. Like I said, he reminds me most of Jason Jones from last year, and Tennessee is using him as a DT. JMO though
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