New mock draft 4-1-05

[FSFootball117]

I don't think Derrick Johnson will go in the third round! LOL. But seriously, you worked hard to put this together, and it shows. Having analysis for 4 rounds is something I haven't seen yet, and it taught me somethinga baout players I was unfamiliar with. I like how you did that. You weren't perfect, though; no one is. I disagree with you about the following picks, and I'll tell you where I think they will go:

16. New Orleans - Heath Miller, TE - I think Miller will go to the Jets at 26. He presents a significant upgrade over Anthony Becht. Plus, the Saints already have Boo, as mentioned in a prior post.
19. St. Louis - Elton Brown, G - Brown will go to either the Pats at 32 (because they lost Andruzzi), or the Pack, who have the fifth pick in round two in your draft (they lost pro-bowl Guard Marco Rivera through free agency and need to retool their o-line).
24. Green Bay - Charlie Frye, QB - Frye isn't cut out for the first round. He'll go either to the Titans at 2, the Pack at 5, or the Raiders at 6, all in the second round.
29. Indy - Carlos Rodgers, CB - No way this guy makes it out of the top 20 alive. He'll go to the Rams at 19. They need CB help BAD.

Nice mock, with few errors.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by big_co Just my opinion, but why would the Browns trade down with San Diego and trade back up with the Titans olny to gain nothing and drop 27 spots downs in the second round. This seems to be pretty silly to me. I also think the Saints will not draft a TE, it will mostlikely be OL, LB or CB. 8)

I agree completely. That trade makes no sense for the Browns. If they trade down to #12 and #28 they will stay there. What would be the point of moving down then moving back up? Besides their is no way San Diego gives up more then the two First rounders to move up into the top 5, espically in this draft.

[bravessoccer12]

the colts picks are all wrong. Carlos Rogers will not be available at the 29th pick (although i would love it), look for them to take Washington or Jackson. the colts still have Rhodes, an undrafted FA who ran for 1000+ yards in his rookie season. at TE the have Dallas Clark who is a beast and Ben Hartsock who is decent. And even though they lost Diem they will not be taking a guard in the forth maybe in 6th or 7th but Indy will vastly improve the D

[TUgoldenboy]

Why do you have Denver taking aTE in Alex Smith at 25????? They just matched the tender sheet offered to Jeb Putzier and signed Stephan Alexander. I agree with the Benson pick but why do you have Barron going to ten when they need much more help first. I don't see the panthers letting Miller drop past them besides the Saints have a pretty good TE in Boo Williams. I think Rogers will be gone way before 29 to the colts, if they get they stole one of the best db's in the draft.

2nd round has SF getting a TE, why, last year SF TE was their leading receiver and he is coming back unless he is cut in the next 2 weeks, I think they take Vernon Morency from OK st. decent but think about what teams have.

[coolh]

ROUND 5

1 137 San Francisco - Stanley Wilson CB Stanford |The 49ers go for secondary help. * * * * * *
2 138 Miami - Stanley Wilson WR Texas A&M | The Fins go for a WR. * * * * * *
3 139 Cleveland - Jamaica Rector WR Northwest Missouri State | The browns go for a WR. * * * * * *
4 140 Chicago -Clifford Dukes OLB Michigan St. | The Bears go for a LB. * * * * * *
5 141 Tampa Bay - Claude Terrell G New Mexico | The Bucs go for a G. * * * * * *
6 142 Tennessee - Kelly Griffeth TE Fort Hays State | The Titans go for a TE as a good cather, pass and rush blocker. * * * * * *
7 143 Green Bay (from Oakland) - Logan Mankins G Fresno St. The Pack go for another G. * * * * * *
8 144 Tampa Bay (from New York Giants through San Diego) - Jordan Beck LB California State Polytechnic | The Bucs go for Beck who can play both inside and outside. * * * * * *
9 145 New England (from Arizona) - Ronald Stanley ILB Michigan St. | The Pats add another LB. * * * * * *
10 146 Philadelphia (from Washington) - Kenneth Pettway OLB Grambling State | The Philly goes for Pettway who can play both DE&OLB. * * * * * *
11 147 Kansas City (from Detroit) - Chris Rix QB Florida St. | The Cheifs go for a QB to play behind Green * * * * * *
12 148 Dallas - Anthony Davis RB Wisconsin | The Boys go for Davis to back up Jones. * * * * * *
13 149 Carolina - Jason Jefferson DT Wisconson | The Panthers go for a DT. * * * * * *
14 150 Kansas City - Mike Kne G Ohio St. | The Cheifs go for an O-lineman. * * * * * *
15 151 Houston - Jonathan Welsh LB Wisconson | The Texans go for a LB.
16 152 New Orleans - Tyler Jones PK Boise St. | The Saints go for a K. * * * * * *
17 153 Cincinnati - Jason Russell G Central Arkanas | The Begals go for a OG.* * * * * ** * * * * *
18 154 Minnesota - Adam Bergen TE Lehigh | The Vikings go for Bergen, who is fast and good hands. * * * * * *
19 155 St. Louis - Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee | The Rams go for a P with a strong and accurate leg. * * * * * *
20 156 Buffalo - Jon Lyon - Washington | The Bills go for a TE. * * * * * *
21 157 Jacksonville - Tramissian Davis WR Louisiana Tech | The Jags go for a Fast WR to add to the core. * * * * * *
22 158 Baltimore - Chris Johnson OT Arizona * * * * * *
23 159 Seattle - Andy Blount TE - North Texas St. The Hawks go for a TE to play behind Stevens. * * * * *
24 160 Atlanta (from Denver) - Mike Wright DT Cincinnati | The Falcons add another DT. * * * * * *
25 161 N.Y. Jets - David Bergeron LB Stanford | The Jets go for a fast LB. * * * * * *
26 162 Kansas City (from Green Bay)*- Mark Manfredda C Cal-Davis | The Cheifs add a C to their O-line.
27 163 Atlanta*- Chris Jahnke C/G Indiana | The Falcons add another O-lineman. * * * * *
28 164 San Diego - Chris Van Hoy DL Louisiana Tech | The Chargers add a D-lineman.* * * * * *
29 165 Indianapolis - Aric Williams Oregon St. | The Colts add another CB to their secondary. * * * * * *
30 166 Pittsburgh - J.R. Ruffin CB Idaho | The Steelers add a DB. * * * * * *
31 167 Philadelphia - Matt Giordano S CAL | The Eagles go for a S to back up their S's. * * * * * *
32 168 Arizona (from New England) - Chris Laskowski LB Florida Atlantic | The Cards go for a LB.* * * * * *
33 169 Carolina (Compensatory Selection) - Shirdonya Mitchell DB Missouri | The Panthers go for a fast DB.* * * * * *
34 170 New England (Compensatory Selection) - Nick Steitz G Oregon | The Pats go for a G.
35 171 Carolina (Compensatory Selection) - Jason Respert C Tennessee | The Panthers go for a C.* * * * * *
36 172 Philadelphia (Compensatory Selection) - Adam Kieft OT Central Michigan | The Eagles go for an OT To play behind Runyan. * * * * * *
37 173 Indianapolis (Compensatory Selection) - Zach Tuiasosopo FB Washington | The Colts go for a pass and run blocking FB.* * * * * *
38 174 San Francisco (Compensatory Selection) - Maurice Clarett RB Ohio St. | The 49ers take a chance on Clarett.

ROUND 6

1 175 San Francisco - Jamall Johnson LB Northwestern St.(LA) * * * * * *
2 176 Cleveland - Josh Chresman DE Illinois St.* * * * * *
3 177 San Diego (from Miami) - Sam Wilder OT Colorodo * * * * * *
4 178 Tampa Bay - Efrem Hill WR Samford * * * * * *
5 179 Cleveland (from Tennessee) - Kerry Wright WR MTSU * * * * * *
6 180 Green Bay (from Oakland) - Matt Thomas WR South Car.* * * * * *
7 181 Chicago - Wesley Britt OT Alabama* * * * * *
8 182 Oakland (from Arizona) - Timmy Chang QB Hawaii * * * * * *
9 183 Washington - Thomas Johnson DT MTSU * * * * * *
10 184 Detroit - Elliott Harris DT*Arkanasas * * * * *
11 185 Oakland (from Dallas) - James King S Central Michigan* * * * * *
12 186 N.Y. Giants - Karlton Neal DE Tennessee* * * * * *
13 187 Kansas City -*Leroy Hill RB Clemson * * * * *
14 188 Houston -*Tony Madison S Hamton * * * * *
15 189 Carolina - Colby Simmions LB Mars Hill College* * * * * *
16 190 Cincinnati - Evan Oglesby CB North Alabama * * * * * *
17 191 Minnesota*- Leon Robinson OG Georgia Tech * * * * *
18 192 St. Louis - Chris Kluwe*P UCLA * * * * *
19 193 New Orleans - Matthew Tant FB Vanderbilt* * * * * *
20 194 Jacksonville - Brandon Dabdoub DT Colorodo* * * * * *
21 195 Baltimore - Cedric Ritter LB Furman* * * * * *
22 196 Seattle - Derrick Tinsley RB Tennessee* * * * * *
23 197 Buffalo -*Mike O'Brien DE Illinois * * * * *
24 198 N.Y. Jets - Anthony Bryant DT Alabama* * * * * *
25 199 Kansas City (from Green Bay) - George Gause DE South Carolina* * * * * *
26 200 Denver*- Lawrence Wade DB Temple * * * * *
27 201 Atlanta*- Ellis Hobbs CB Iowa St. * * * * *
28 202 Indianapolis*- Reggie Harrell WR TCU* * * * *
29 203 Tampa Bay (from San Diego) - Andy Blount TE North Texas St* * * * * *
30 204 Pittsburgh - Doug Monaghan S Cinncinatti* * * * * *
31 205 San Francisco (from Philadelphia) - Chris Harris S Louisiana-Monroe* * * * * *
32 206 New England - Tramissian Davis WR Louisiana Tech* * * * * *
33 207 Carolina (Compensatory Selection) - Chris Carr S Boise St * * * * * *
34 208 Dallas (Compensatory Selection) -*Tony Madison WR Kansas St. * * * * *
35 209 Dallas (Compensatory Selection)*- B.J. Ward S Florida St. * * * * *
36 210 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection)*- Eric Moore DE Florida St. * * * * *
37 211 Philadelphia (Compensatory Selection) - Dante Ridgeway WR Ball St. * * * * * *
38 212 Oakland (Compensatory Selection) - Vince Crochunis DT Pittsburg* * * * * *
39 213 Baltimore (Compensatory Selection) - Steve Fleming TE Arizona* * * * * *
40 214 Oakland (Compensatory Selection)*- Richard Hall RB Cincinatti

ROUND 7

1 215 San Francisco*- John Winchester ILB Louisiana-Monroe * * * * *
2 216 Miami - Daniel Orlovsky QB Connecticut * * * * *
3 217 Cleveland - Lionel Gates RB Louisville* * * * * *
4 218 Tennessee -Charles Anthony RB TSU * * * * * *
5 219 Minnesota (from Oakland) - Marques Roberts WR Baylor * * * * * *
6 220 Chicago - Brandon Heaney CB BYU* * * * * *
7 221 Tampa Bay - Roydell Williams WR Tulane* * * * * *
8 222 Washington*- Bradshaw Littlejohn QB Morgan St. * * * * *
9 223 Detroit*- Russ Rabe LB Minnasota-Duluth * * * * *
10 224 Dallas*- Rian Melander OT Minnasota * * * * *
11 225 Tampa Bay (from New York Giants)*- Marvin Townes RB/KR East Carolina * * * * *
12 226 Arizona*- Jamaica Rector WR N.W. Missouri St. * * * * *
13 227 Houston*- Justin Green FB Montana * * * * *
14 228 Pittsburgh (from Carolina) - Victor Sesay TE Missouri* * * * * *
15 229 Kansas City*- Marcus Maxwell WR Oregon * * * * *
16 230 Minnesota*- Melvin Williams DE Southern Methodist * * * * *
17 231 St. Louis*- Kenonta Marshall DT Grand Valley St. * * * * *
18 232 New Orleans*- Frank Gore RB Miami(FL) * * * * *
19 233 Cincinnati*- Laroni Gallishaw CB Murray St. * * * * *
20 234 Baltimore*- Donyell Booker DT Fresno St. * * * * *
21 235 Seattle*- Brock Berlin QB Miami(FL) * * * * *
22 236 Buffalo*- Shirdonya Mitchell CB Missouri * * * * *
23 237 Jacksonville - Jacque Lewis RB North Carolina* * * * * *
24 238 Kansas City (from Green Bay) - Brian Huffman P/K Northwestern.* * * * * *
25 239 Denver*- Jermaine Hardy S West Virgina * * * * *
26 240 N.Y. Jets - David Kashetta TE Boston College* * * * * *
27 241 Atlanta*- Danny Wimprine QB Memphis * * * * *
28 242 San Diego*- Marcus Houston RB Colorodo St. * * * * *
29 243 Indianapolis*- Nick Kaczur G Toledo * * * * *
30 244 Pittsburgh*- Fred Reid RB/KR Miss St. * * * * *
31 245 Philadelphia*- Tyler King DE Connecticut * * * * *
32 246 New England*- Roy Manning LB Michigan * * * * *
33 247 Philadelphia (Compensatory Selection) - Dominique Morris CB Vanderbilt* * * * * *
34 248 San Francisco (Compensatory Selection) Bryan Randall QB Virgina Tech* * * * * *
35 249 San Francisco (Compensatory Selection) Chad Owens WR/KR Hawaii* * * * * *
36 250 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection) Derron Brown FB Southern Methodest.* * * * * *
37 251 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection) Kevin Carberry DE Ohio* * * * * *
38 252 Philadelphia (Compensatory Selection) Mike Sanders LB Howard * * * * * *
39 253 Tampa Bay (Compensatory Selection) Paul Thomas LB/DE TSU* * * * * *
40 254 Seattle (Compensatory Selection) Stefan Rodgers OT Lambuth* * * * * *
41 255 New England (Compensatory Selection) Jay Ratliff DL Auburn* *

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[coolh]

This is all & rounds of my mock draft I went back and made some changes to the 1-4 rounds and add 5-7 rounds it took me a couple weeks to finish my entire draft and worked very hard on it.

[MidlandCowboyFan]

Like the trade up for San Diego but they won't have to give up a second also. Tampa Bay in no way will take a QB in this draft much less the first round. Dallas will take a WR but definitely not in the first -- you need to re-evaluate Parcells, it will be both picks defense in the first and they won't be at 11 and 20. Dallas will trade down with both picks to acquire additional picks probably only a couple of spots (3 to 5) but they will trade down.

Cleveland will not trade back up into the top ten, needs are to much and draft is to much of a wild card. If they make the trade they will use both the 12 and 28 on defense.

[pep999]

I WAS ON BOARD WITH THE CLEVELAND TRADE AND I AM ON BOARD WITHEM DRAFTING JASON CAMPBELL HOWEVER, ONCE THEY MAKE THE TRADE IS SEEMS STUPID TO GIVE IT AWAY FOR THE 6TH PICK. I HAD CLEVELAND TRADING WITH THE EAGLES FOR THEIR FIRST ROUND CHOICE AND THEIR 2 SECOND ROUND CHOICES (SEE PHAROAH). I THINK JASON AMPBELL WILL GO EARLY IN THE 2ND ROUND THATS WHY I SEE THE EAGLES TRADE MAKING MORE SENSE. I LIKE THE THE CHARGER TRADE BETTER THAN MINE BECAUSE THEY CAN STILL GET JASON CAMPBELL EARLY IN THE 2ND ROUND AT 34. CLEVELAND NEEDS TO REPLENISH THEIR D-LINE AFTER LOOSING BOTH DE'S AND THEIR DT.

[coolh]

The Browns Trade down to get more picks in the draft and trade up to get the player they wanted because johnson would not be at 12 and they trade their second for a sixth pick and a 2nd round pick next year.

Gruden Has made it public he would take a QB or a defensive player in the draft in the first round.

make sure u read the whole draft because i really worked on this.

[FSFootball117]

Nice mock. Are there really two Stanley Wilson's and two Derric Johnsons? What are the odds that the Wilsons would go one after the other? Anyway, I don't think Orlovsky will fall to the seventh. He is probably a mid 5th round pick. A little to early for Clarett. IMO, he will either go in the 7th or go undrafted. He has a lot of character problems, and he isn't the talent he once was.