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Old 01-12-2007, 01:27 PM
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Hey what's yes I'm poping them out like candy but oh well I'm looking at everybodies oppinion and taking things in. However there are somethings I agree and disagree with you guys. Like I said though it's human nature to do those sorts of things and hey you can agree or disagree with me it's a free country. Anyways I think I'm going to slow down until after the playoffs happen, Of course things will change dramatically with trades and and stocks going up and down I have never liked the way the stock improves your draft pick or not, I think it should be your overall preformance throughout your career in collage just because you don't have a decent combine it shouldn't prohibit you getting picked where you deserve. Agree or disagree here you go Draft Order Your Picks
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Oakland Raiders Russell, JaMarcus, QB LSU
2.
Detroit Lions Adams, Gaines, DE Clemson
3.
Cleveland Browns Hall, Leon, CB Michigan
4.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Quinn, Brady, QB Notre Dame
5.
Arizona Cardinals Thomas, Joe, OT Wisconsin
6.
Washington Redskins Branch, Alan, DT Michigan
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Minnesota Vikings Johnson, Calvin, WR Georgia Tech
8.
Houston Texans Peterson, Adrian, RB Oklahoma
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Miami Dolphins Moses, Quentin, DE Georgia
10.
Atlanta Falcons Jarret, Dwayne, WR USC
11.
San Francisco 49ers Landry, Laron, S LSU
12.
Buffalo Bills Smith, Steve, WR USC
13.
St. Louis Rams Posluszny, Paul, OLB Penn St.
14.
Carolina Panthers Brohm, Brian, QB Louisville
15.
Pittsburgh Steelers Pitcock, Quinn, DT Ohio State
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Green Bay Packers Lynch, Marshawn, RB California
17.
Jacksonville Jaguars Blalock, Justin, OG Texas
18.
Cincinnati Bengals Woodley, LaMarr, DE Michigan
19.
Tennessee Titans Ginn, Ted, WR Ohio State
20.
New York Giants Okoye, Amobi, DT Louisville
21.
Denver Broncos McCauley, Marcus, CB Fresno State
22.
New England Patriots Samardzija, Jeff, WR Notre Dame
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Dallas Cowboys Nelson, Reggie, S Florida
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Kansas City Chiefs Rice, Sidney, WR South Carolina
25.
New Orleans Saints Brown, Levi, OT Penn St.
26.
New York Jets Revis, Darrelle, CB Pittsburgh
27.
Philadelphia Eagles Alexander, Rufus, OLB Oklahoma
28.
New England Patriots Blades, H.B., OLB Pittsburgh
29.
Indianapolis Colts Davis, Buster, ILB Florida State
30.
Baltimore Ravens Tyler, DeMarcus, DT North Carolina State
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Chicago Bears Miller, Zach, TE Arizona St
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San Diego Chargers Bowe, Dwayne, WR LSU
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:30 PM
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The Chargers WILL NOT draft a WR in the first. Our 2 middle LB's might not be on the team next year and our SS is going to jail.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:52 PM
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I'm not sold on Quinn to TB...or for him to be available still. I see them taking Calvin Johnson, Gains Adams, or Joe Thomas with that pick.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:49 PM
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I don't think that Quinn goes to Tampa Bay. They just re-signed Chris Simms and have a capable backup in Bruce Gradkowski. I look for them to take either Gaines Adams or Calvin Johnson.

Leon Hall is a great fit for the Browns, just not at 3 or 4. I see them trading down to #7 and selecting Hall, and Minnesota jumps up and selects Johnson.

Quentin Moses is overated. During his bowl game(chick-fil-a) he was easily blocked and outperformed by teammate Charles Johnson. Moses is more of a mid to late 2nd as of now and could fall further.

I don't see Steve Smith in the first round. He could very well make the 1st round with a great Combine, but he's a 2nd rounder, maybe to Oakland.

The Bengals will only need DE if Justin Smith leaves and that would be for depth. Robert Geathers still starts at one side and someone (name slips my mind at the moment) comes off the bench.

Marcus McCauley does have tremendous speed, and lacks in coverage, but lost his starting job on an awful Fresno St. defense. He has slipped into the 2nd round as well.

Reggie Nelson will likely not last that long, but would be a good fit at FS.

Darelle Revis is another prospect very similar to Marcus McCauley.

Chicago has Desmond Clark solidifiying the TE position.

San Diego is set at WR. McCardell for a few more years, but behind him are guys such as Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, and Antonio Gates, who techincally is a TE, but plays as a WR most of the time.

Many of these picks are right on the money though.
Such as Washington, Houston, Green Bay, Tennessee, New England, Philadelphia, Oakland, and Indianapolis.

Not a bad mock overall.
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I don't think that Quinn goes to Tampa Bay. They just re-signed Chris Simms and have a capable backup in Bruce Gradkowski. I look for them to take either Gaines Adams or Calvin Johnson.

Leon Hall is a great fit for the Browns, just not at 3 or 4. I see them trading down to #7 and selecting Hall, and Minnesota jumps up and selects Johnson.

Quentin Moses is overated. During his bowl game(chick-fil-a) he was easily blocked and outperformed by teammate Charles Johnson. Moses is more of a mid to late 2nd as of now and could fall further.

I don't see Steve Smith in the first round. He could very well make the 1st round with a great Combine, but he's a 2nd rounder, maybe to Oakland.

The Bengals will only need DE if Justin Smith leaves and that would be for depth. Robert Geathers still starts at one side and someone (name slips my mind at the moment) comes off the bench.

Marcus McCauley does have tremendous speed, and lacks in coverage, but lost his starting job on an awful Fresno St. defense. He has slipped into the 2nd round as well.

Reggie Nelson will likely not last that long, but would be a good fit at FS.

Darelle Revis is another prospect very similar to Marcus McCauley.

Chicago has Desmond Clark solidifiying the TE position.

San Diego is set at WR. McCardell for a few more years, but behind him are guys such as Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, and Antonio Gates, who techincally is a TE, but plays as a WR most of the time.

Many of these picks are right on the money though.
Such as Washington, Houston, Green Bay, Tennessee, New England, Philadelphia, Oakland, and Indianapolis.

Not a bad mock overall.
Thank you for doing that cdobry...I agree with all you say here. I'm tired of typing novels for this guy.

He does have a few picks right on, but the ones he's missing he's missing by a wide margin.
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hey look all I ask for is commenst not novels you think your picks are better than everybody else's fine be that way, I'm sick and tired of you advertising you sportingnews.com crap, if I have my own ideas you people say there not yours so it's not good enough if I take some of your own ideas and mix in mine it's not bad but it's way off too, come on people this is just supposed to be for fun. Don't type novels for me, heck the web site picks aren't even up to date so I'm going by those. Also trades haven't even happened yet. I don't know why you guys think these picks are going stick I look into the future and try and see what may happen, atlanta may very well get another first rounder for schaub. The raiders could very well trade a package for moss and porter and get another 2nd or 1rst round out of it. What is going on, I had last year williams for the texans two months before they even signed him for the draft, and I got laughed at and picked on so bad. I don't even know why I try to put stuff on here. Just tell me what picks are good and aren't thats all I ask. Thanks and hope everybody else does okay.
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hey look all I ask for is commenst not novels you think your picks are better than everybody else's fine be that way, I'm sick and tired of you advertising you sportingnews.com crap, if I have my own ideas you people say there not yours so it's not good enough if I take some of your own ideas and mix in mine it's not bad but it's way off too, come on people this is just supposed to be for fun. Don't type novels for me, heck the web site picks aren't even up to date so I'm going by those. Also trades haven't even happened yet. I don't know why you guys think these picks are going stick I look into the future and try and see what may happen, atlanta may very well get another first rounder for schaub. The raiders could very well trade a package for moss and porter and get another 2nd or 1rst round out of it. What is going on, I had last year williams for the texans two months before they even signed him for the draft, and I got laughed at and picked on so bad. I don't even know why I try to put stuff on here. Just tell me what picks are good and aren't thats all I ask. Thanks and hope everybody else does okay.
I don't repect your opinion because it isn't your opinion. You rip off everyone else's opinions and form them into your own. I do a ton of research and can back up every opinion I have. We wouldn't write novels if it was a decent mock. We don't care what you predicted last year. You weren't here to give us those predictions so for all we know your blowing smoke. You don't like it when people ridicule your opinions with their own then you're on the wrong site. I'm not going to coddle you. I'm going to tell you what I think and when I think what you've got is crap then I'm going to tell you it's crap. You believe in your picks that I ridicule then back them up. Stand up for your opinion. Instead, you're looking at everyone else's mocks, not researching on your own and just regurgitating whatever you see. Don't post another mock if you don't want it criticized. People disagree with things I say all the time. I will back up my opinion until proved wrong. If I'm proved wrong then I will concede to that person. I don't hate people's picks if they don't look like my own. I hate people's picks when they aren't even close to what the team would actually pick or if there is not any way that that player would be taken in the 1st round. You have several picks of that nature. That's why I criticized your mock so heavily.

Also, if you don't like seeing me advertise my sports blog then I suggest you just ignore it. I will advertise it whenever I want. I don't force it on people. I don't create posts just so people will go read it. I simply put it in my signature with the option of people clicking it and reading it.

You need to learn how to not take criticism so seriously. Everyone's mock gets criticized. Even mine and I welcome the criticism. It is through debate that a sports fan learns more about sports as long as it is productive debate. You're welcome to come back with reasons as to why you think your picks are so right, but don't come back with the crap that you've seen that pick in other mocks. That makes it someone else's opinion, not your own. Tell me why that player deserves to be picked there. And tell me why that team would benefit from drafting that player. You've attempted to do so with some of these picks like your Detroit pick, for example, but I have countered with facts of my own to back up my opinion that Quinn is the way they'll go. Instead of countering back, you started complaining that we were ridiculing your picks. You tried to defend your Rams picking Marshawn Lynch opinion with the fact that Davis and Faulk are older and moving on from football and the Rams need a 1-2 punch. I gave you the fact that the Rams don't use a 1-2 punch in their running game, which makes Lynch a wasted pick for the Rams there. Again instead of countering back you whined that we were picking on you. We're not picking on you. We're critiquing your opinions and we're giving you facts in that process. Critique has the same root word as criticism so they go hand in hand. If you can't take critique then I suggest you don't post another mock on this site. However, I hope you do stay as long as you can learn to take a little cricism.
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I agree cubuffsman. I personally like criticism about my mocks. It helps me improve my mock.

About your whole "predicting the future" thing. I do mocks, and I'm guessing others do it the same way, as if the draft were happening tomorrow, who I think each team would take.
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I can understand getting creative and thinking outside the box on certain picks, but is has to make at least a little bit of sense. Lynch to the Rams, for example, makes absolutely no sense. The Rams have a very young RB who might be the best RB in the NFL not named LT or LJ, plus they have other holes to fill on Defense and O-Line, so why on earth would they take Lynch?. That's like the Ravens taking a LB even though they have Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and Adalius Thomas. Or the Colts taking a QB even though they have Manning
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