Mock Draft

[cubuffsman78]

I actually do one of these each week for my sports blog, but I thought I'd share this weeks version with you.

I know there will be a lot of complaints about Quentin Moses falling so far in the 1st round. Truth is I tried and tried to find a spot for him higher up, but couldn't find one. As always, all comments are welcome as I love a good debate and discussion.

1 Ari Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin
2 Det Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
3 Oak Brian Brohm QB Louisville
4 TB Gaines Adams DE Clemson
5 Ten Calvin Johnson WR Ga. Tech
6 Mia Leon Hall CB Michigan
7 Hou Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
8 Cle Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio St.
9 Pit LaRon Landry S LSU
10 Was LaMarr Woodley DE Michigan
11 Buf Levi Brown OT Penn St.
12 Min Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
13 StL Paul Posluszny OLB Penn St.
14 GB Daymeion Hughes CB California
15 SF Alan Branch NT Michigan
16 Cin Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
17 Atl Justin Blalock OL Texas
18 NYJ Kenny Irons RB Auburn
19 Dal Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio St.
20 Car Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame
21 Jax Charles Johnson DE Georgia
22 KC Jeff Samardzija WR Notre Dame
23 Phi Michael Bush RB Louisville
24 NE David Harris MLB Michigan
25 NO Pat Willis MLB Mississippi
26 NE Antoine Cason CB Arizona
27 NYG Marshawn Lynch RB California
28 Bal Tony Taylor OLB Georgia
29 SD Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
30 Den Joel Filani WR Texas Tech
31 Chi Sam Baker OT USC
32 Ind Quentin Moses DE Georgia

[pitcherc10]

I like the Browns pick a lot. He would be a good D end in the 3-4. I cant see Ginn entering the draft, and even if he did i dont think he is good enough to be a mid first rounder. He is still pretty raw. Zbikowski is a first round pick on measurables alone but he has a lot of trouble in coverage and he is too small to make the move to linebacker. I personally think that Michael Bush will go higher in the draft, of course that is all speculation until we see he is healthy in the draft. Im not a Brady Quinn fan as i have stated on here before... he is terribly over rated... I put Brohm ahead of him... Just for the record i would hope that if the Cardinals are taking Joe Thomas, which they should, they will trade down to do it, Thomas isnt worth the number one pick. Draft looked good to me though

[cubuffsman78]

Originally Posted by pitcherc10 I like the Browns pick a lot. He would be a good D end in the 3-4. I cant see Ginn entering the draft, and even if he did i dont think he is good enough to be a mid first rounder. He is still pretty raw. Zbikowski is a first round pick on measurables alone but he has a lot of trouble in coverage and he is too small to make the move to linebacker. I personally think that Michael Bush will go higher in the draft, of course that is all speculation until we see he is healthy in the draft. Im not a Brady Quinn fan as i have stated on here before... he is terribly over rated... I put Brohm ahead of him... Just for the record i would hope that if the Cardinals are taking Joe Thomas, which they should, they will trade down to do it, Thomas isnt worth the number one pick. Draft looked good to me though

Way off on Thomas. He is definitely worth the #1 pick in this draft. He is dominant.

Ginn has made all the strides to being a 1st round pick. His route running and hands were the question coming into this season and both have been improved immensely. His speed will be second to none in this draft and he's also the top PR in the draft.

I won't argue with you on Quinn....that's pointless. When everyone else is seeing something that you aren't then there comes a time to say hmmm...maybe I'm missing something.

[porky88]

I don't think GB passes on a DE or RB in this Draft. Green is getting old and will be a free agent this year so they have nobody there. KGB is likely going to be released this off season and has been underpeforming. He's seeing 1 on 1 with Kampman playing dominate and KGB just isn't producing. So right now I think GB looks at RB or DE in round 1. Marshawn Lynch would be a perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme there.

I actually think Tampa would go Calvin Johnson. Gruden is a former receivers coach and Johnson would be a great target for Simms or whoever they have at QB next year. Most likely a young player.

I would actually flip flop the Titans and Bucs picks...

I feel Charles Johnson should be higher. I think he'll go top 15 for sure and maybe top 10.

I liked it for the most part though... Nice job!

[cubuffsman78]

Originally Posted by porky88 I don't think GB passes on a DE or RB in this Draft. Green is getting old and will be a free agent this year so they have nobody there. KGB is likely going to be released this off season and has been underpeforming. He's seeing 1 on 1 with Kampman playing dominate and KGB just isn't producing. So right now I think GB looks at RB or DE in round 1. Marshawn Lynch would be a perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme there. I actually think Tampa would go Calvin Johnson. Gruden is a former receivers coach and Johnson would be a great target for Simms or whoever they have at QB next year. Most likely a young player. I would actually flip flop the Titans and Bucs picks... I feel Charles Johnson should be higher. I think he'll go top 15 for sure and maybe top 10. I liked it for the most part though... Nice job!

I really battled with the Tampa/Tennessee picks myself. It came down to two things for me though...1) The Buccs are last in the league in sacks with only 12. When's the last time you heard about the Buccs being that low in the sack department? 2) The front office has said they are commited to overhauling the defense and bringing in younger players this next offseason. However, at the same time...how do you pass on a talent like Johnson when you could use a WR? It's a tough decision. I went with Adams though. Really the two positions are probably the deepest in the draft. They could end up with a good DE in the 2nd round as well as a good WR in the 2nd round. I think they're still okay at WR. Galloway has a couple years left and I'm not ready to give up on Clayton. I think he can still be a very good WR. I don't think his rookie season was just a fluke.

I think GB has a much bigger need in the secondary than at DE. I really thought about Irons or Lynch at that pick though because of Green's injury concerns and he's a UFA at the end of the season. I see them resigning him though and he's really shown some life since getting healthy again. They have the 2nd worst pass defense in the league too. It's got to be addressed.

[porky88]

Originally Posted by cubuffsman78 Originally Posted by porky88 I don't think GB passes on a DE or RB in this Draft. Green is getting old and will be a free agent this year so they have nobody there. KGB is likely going to be released this off season and has been underpeforming. He's seeing 1 on 1 with Kampman playing dominate and KGB just isn't producing. So right now I think GB looks at RB or DE in round 1. Marshawn Lynch would be a perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme there. I actually think Tampa would go Calvin Johnson. Gruden is a former receivers coach and Johnson would be a great target for Simms or whoever they have at QB next year. Most likely a young player. I would actually flip flop the Titans and Bucs picks... I feel Charles Johnson should be higher. I think he'll go top 15 for sure and maybe top 10. I liked it for the most part though... Nice job! I really battled with the Tampa/Tennessee picks myself. It came down to two things for me though...1) The Buccs are last in the league in sacks with only 12. When's the last time you heard about the Buccs being that low in the sack department? 2) The front office has said they are commited to overhauling the defense and bringing in younger players this next offseason. However, at the same time...how do you pass on a talent like Johnson when you could use a WR? It's a tough decision. I went with Adams though. Really the two positions are probably the deepest in the draft. They could end up with a good DE in the 2nd round as well as a good WR in the 2nd round. I think they're still okay at WR. Galloway has a couple years left and I'm not ready to give up on Clayton. I think he can still be a very good WR. I don't think his rookie season was just a fluke. I think GB has a much bigger need in the secondary than at DE. I really thought about Irons or Lynch at that pick though because of Green's injury concerns and he's a UFA at the end of the season. I see them resigning him though and he's really shown some life since getting healthy again. They have the 2nd worst pass defense in the league too. It's got to be addressed.

Packers have problems with their safties. They give up the big play and it usually Al Harris letting the receiver go thinking he has safety help. Manuel has really been a bust of a signing for them and Nick Collins is having a soph slump. Woodson and Harris have been rather solid.

They do have a need for nickel back but the front office is very high on Will Blackmon. I think they'll look at CB, just not in round 1. Ted Thompson also goes with the BPA most of the time and in that case I think Charles Johnson would come into play. There more likely to take a safety in round 1 rather than a CB. So if Landry falls he is definately a possible pick. Most likely in the draft you have played out, Charles Johnson or Marshawn Lynch is the pick for the Packers.

[pitcherc10]

Im not the only one who sees that with Quinn... i go to college with a ton of Notre Dame fans and they see it week in and week out... they are the ones who pointed it out to me...and for some reason i do see a lot of things on this forum that other people dont. I was probably the only one who said Bush wasnt going to be as good as people said, so far I have been right, jury is still out. and two years ago I was the only one that predicted PacMan Jones over Antrell Rolle... you guys told me no way with that too... so maybe your missing something, take an objective look back at his games, especially the loses and close games and you'll see what I am saying, i wouldnt come on here and say something that I dont see it would be pointless.
You think Thomas is dominant enough to be the number one pick? Personally i dont think any o-linemen is worth the number one over all selection... linemen are never a sure thing... case and point Robert Gallery. Joe Thomas is rediculously good in college but its hard to predict how he or any linemen will do in the pros, especially comming off a torn ACL. Im not gunna argue that the Cards shouldnt take him cause they need him badly... but I think they could benefit by trading down... they could move to three if a team wants to jump up and take a QB... if your just projecting picks to teams i like it, but if your saying Joe Thomas will be the number one pick in this draft I wont believe it until i see it.
As a devout Buckeye fan I agree that Teddy has gotten a lot better, he no longer looks scared to get hit and his route running is much better... Right now, I'd say he is a late first round pick because of his size... he needs some more muscle, if he stayed for his senior year, he could take himself from late first round to mid-top first round. I think his leaving all depends on if the Buckeyes win the National Championship... and if he leaves ill look forward to watching White Lightning (Gonzo) cause he is already better then Ginn

[porky88]

Originally Posted by pitcherc10 Im not the only one who sees that with Quinn... i go to college with a ton of Notre Dame fans and they see it week in and week out... they are the ones who pointed it out to me...and for some reason i do see a lot of things on this forum that other people dont. I was probably the only one who said Bush wasnt going to be as good as people said, so far I have been right, jury is still out. and two years ago I was the only one that predicted PacMan Jones over Antrell Rolle... you guys told me no way with that too... so maybe your missing something, take an objective look back at his games, especially the loses and close games and you'll see what I am saying, i wouldnt come on here and say something that I dont see it would be pointless. You think Thomas is dominant enough to be the number one pick? Personally i dont think any o-linemen is worth the number one over all selection... linemen are never a sure thing... case and point Robert Gallery. Joe Thomas is rediculously good in college but its hard to predict how he or any linemen will do in the pros, especially comming off a torn ACL. Im not gunna argue that the Cards shouldnt take him cause they need him badly... but I think they could benefit by trading down... they could move to three if a team wants to jump up and take a QB... if your just projecting picks to teams i like it, but if your saying Joe Thomas will be the number one pick in this draft I wont believe it until i see it. As a devout Buckeye fan I agree that Teddy has gotten a lot better, he no longer looks scared to get hit and his route running is much better... Right now, I'd say he is a late first round pick because of his size... he needs some more muscle, if he stayed for his senior year, he could take himself from late first round to mid-top first round. I think his leaving all depends on if the Buckeyes win the National Championship... and if he leaves ill look forward to watching White Lightning (Gonzo) cause he is already better then Ginn

Orlando Pace went #1 overall and Joe Thomas is going to be rated probably as high as him. He's definitely worth the #1 overall pick. It comes down to who gets it. If Arizona gets it then Thomas is a good bet for the pick. If the Raiders get it then Quinn is likely although Davis is said to like Brohm so you never know. The Lions I think would go either Quinn or Thomas. Either way though Thomas is clearly worth the top pick. A franchise LT is probably the 2nd most desired position in football behind only QB. A team like Arizona already has their franchise QB so Thomas would be an ideal pick there.

[pitcherc10]

You think so even off of a torn ACL? I think if the injury question wasnt there it would be more convincing... well i dont even think this si going to be a discussion after the season because I have a hard time believing that the Cards will have the number one pick... there is still a lot of football left to watch

[porky88]

Originally Posted by pitcherc10 You think so even off of a torn ACL? I think if the injury question wasnt there it would be more convincing... well i dont even think this si going to be a discussion after the season because I have a hard time believing that the Cards will have the number one pick... there is still a lot of football left to watch

Yeah the ACL is healed now. He's completely healthy. Now if he were to get injured then obivously no he won't go that high but that can happen to any player.