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04-11-2009, 12:21 AM
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I dont agree that QB is a need for Denver. They wouldn't have commanded Orten in the deal if they wanted to draft a QB. Being a Bronco-fan, this is the only pick I absolutely do not agree with in your mock.
Secondly, I agree that Curry is the safer pick at #1, but all directions point to Stafford, with Jason Smith as an outside shot.
Orakpo, though a need for the Chiefs is not the best player available for the team at #3. I think Monroe and Crabtree would be just as likely the way your draft breaks down.
Same thing goes for Maybin. Cleveland would get better value to take Crabtree here or Raji, both whom I have higher on my board then Maybin.
I think Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis will slide to around pick 18 and beyond.
You have a pretty good mock and all the picks are very possible. I think your prospects ratings are unquie but also accurate. Good research and nice mock draft overall.
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04-11-2009, 12:37 AM
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Curry won't go #1 for the simple fact that the Lions can't afford to put that much money into the LB position. Peterson has a monster contract, and Sims has a top 10 contract as well. By giving their 3rd LB 1st overall money, that would almost certainly mean that Sims can't be resigned when his contract is up.
I don't like Maybin that high at all. If they can't get Orakpo, then it'll be a WR.
And unless Malcolm Jenkins is available for the Texans, they'll almost certainly draft a LB. Cushing makes a lot more sense there, that's way too high for Davis IMO.
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04-11-2009, 01:30 AM
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And unless Malcolm Jenkins is available for the Texans, they'll almost certainly draft a LB. Cushing makes a lot more sense there, that's way too high for Davis IMO.
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I don't think the Texans look LB anymore. They fixed the need on the weak side by bringing in Cato June. June with DeMeco Ryans and the surprising Zach Diles gives Houston one of the better trios in the league.
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04-11-2009, 01:45 AM
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I don't think the Texans look LB anymore. They fixed the need on the weak side by bringing in Cato June. June with DeMeco Ryans and the surprising Zach Diles gives Houston one of the better trios in the league.
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June wasn't nearly the LB he was back in Indi. They even said when they signed him that he would be competing with Xavier Adibi for the starting spot. I don't think their sold on either player, and Zach Diles is certainly not proven either. Everything I've heard out of Houston has been saying that they will go DT or LB. Vontae Davis is a reach at that point IMO, and from what I hear, there satisfied with the CBs on their team.
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04-11-2009, 10:15 AM
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I don't think they'll go CB either.
June wasn't great in Tampa Bay because he played strong side. He was out of position. He'll thrive again on the weak side. Even if he's competing with Adibi, that's a good situation as both guys are worthy starters.
Diles more than proved himself last season. He took a ton of the pressure off of Ryans. Ryans might have played as well as he has in his short career, but posted fewer tackles. He led the team in tackles before getting hurt in Week 9. He still ended up second. He is the answer for the strong side.
Houston is in an interesting situation. The players who will be available and of good value for the Texans when they pick don't exactly fill big needs. I could see them going DE maybe, but I really don't think it's going to be LB or CB. Houston is one of the main teams for which it makes a ton of sense to trade back.
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04-11-2009, 12:12 PM
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I agree with both your thoughts. Don't forget DE though. The Texans have drafted a Defensive Lineman in the first round the past 3 drafts. All their missing is the DE opposite of Mario Williams. They would be thrilled to have Robert Ayers fall to them.
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04-11-2009, 12:15 PM
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I think Everette Brown has to be considered a possibility since who could play the weakside opposite Williams.
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04-11-2009, 02:28 PM
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Saying one team is for sure going to take that position usually means you're wrong when you're dealing with mid round teams. Houston could go LB, but you have consider other options too.
I think Houston may move down in the draft and target Louis Delmas with a late first.
As for his draft.
I think Detroit is going to take either Stafford or Jason Smith. I think Curry is a great prospect, but Detroit's linebackers are fairly solid right now with Peterson and Sims on the outside. I could see an inside backer later in the draft. Possibly James Laurinitis in round two.
I think KC goes Eugene Monroe in your situation.
I also think Rey Maualuga's stock is dropping a lot. He's just overrated in my opinion. He plays downhill and might be able to give a bit of an inside pass rush, but he can't play on third down. He's also not that fast and a lot of character concerns are being risen with him. Pete Carroll I believe had to have Clay Matthews basically babysit him.
There are more red flags on him than Andre Smith whom a lot on this board see falling on a freefall. The difference is Smith is amazing on tape.
I like Everette Brown to go higher. I think he's a legit top 15 pick. Pass Rushers are another position that tend to get over drafted. Brown might not be a first and second down player in some schemes, but he could be a 10 sack guy as a pass rusher. Someone will take him high for that reason alone. Houston, if they stay put, would consider him like Cubbs says.
I don't see James Laurinitis in the 3-4. Baltimore could move up for a middle backer though or maybe someone falls.
Overall, I liked your draft a lot in the 20 to 32 range. I especially like Peria Jerry to Atlanta. If he's there, they take him. I don't think he will be, but I see Jerry falling to Indy in a lot of mocks and that just seems like a gift to the Colts.
I gave you a 10 because I give anyone a 10 unless it's awful, but I probably would've given it a 7 or an 8 if I was being completely accurate.
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04-11-2009, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cubuffsman78
I don't think they'll go CB either.
June wasn't great in Tampa Bay because he played strong side. He was out of position. He'll thrive again on the weak side. Even if he's competing with Adibi, that's a good situation as both guys are worthy starters.
Diles more than proved himself last season. He took a ton of the pressure off of Ryans. Ryans might have played as well as he has in his short career, but posted fewer tackles. He led the team in tackles before getting hurt in Week 9. He still ended up second. He is the answer for the strong side.
Houston is in an interesting situation. The players who will be available and of good value for the Texans when they pick don't exactly fill big needs. I could see them going DE maybe, but I really don't think it's going to be LB or CB. Houston is one of the main teams for which it makes a ton of sense to trade back.
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I think DE was eliminated when they signed Antonio Smith.
And I agree that Houston is a very interesting team. Their biggest need right now is safety and I agree with Porky that trading down to get Louis Delmas makes a lot of sense. Not too long ago they were likely choosing between DE, DT and LB. Now they've signed Smith, June, and Shaun Cody, so there are arguments against all 3 of those positions. Cody is the least impressive out of the three, so Peria Jerry makes sense, but I think if Brian Cushing is available, his value is just too high for them to pass on him. Clay Matthews is another likely pick there as well.
However, I think Houston creates the biggest dilemma of any team in the 1st round. I personally think it'll be Malcolm Jenkins if available, or a front 7 guy, but it could very easily be a CB or Percy Harvin even at that point.
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