Casey's first 2009 Mock

[kc5950]

2009 NFL Mock Draft Picks 1-16 - Fantasy Football Jungle
2009 NFL Mock Draft Picks 17-32 - Fantasy Football Jungle

Tear it up.

[mrdv1]

right position for the first two picks, wrong two players. It's most likely going to be bradford and andre smith, not stafford and oher.

Other than that its alright, Mays is high but I understand the pick... go with malcolm jenkins there instead.

Duke Robinson played himself out of the first. Unger and Herman johnson are better prospects at gaurd IMO. Russell Okung is another guy to watch out for.

[bowler533]

Once more, someone assumes because Shanahan is gone the team will draft differently. That couldn't be further from the truth. Both Goodman's and Xanders are still there. The draft strategy won't change.

[Kevman21]

Not that it makes a huge difference but your order is wrong. The Packers and Jaguars should be switched.

[kc5950]

Originally Posted by bowler533 Once more, someone assumes because Shanahan is gone the team will draft differently. That couldn't be further from the truth. Both Goodman's and Xanders are still there. The draft strategy won't change.

I don't necessarily agree with you. Much of the team's success at runningback can be attributed, in my opinion, to Gary Kubiak. He's my football version of Billy Beane, and probably my favorite coach in the NFL.

Even with Shanahan the team has struggled to find a viable, long-term option.

I think if the Bronco's want to show a vote of confidence in their new coach, t hey'll adopt his desires.

[kc5950]

Originally Posted by mrdv1 right position for the first two picks, wrong two players. It's most likely going to be bradford and andre smith, not stafford and oher. Other than that its alright, Mays is high but I understand the pick... go with malcolm jenkins there instead. Duke Robinson played himself out of the first. Unger and Herman johnson are better prospects at gaurd IMO. Russell Okung is another guy to watch out for.

I like Malcolm Jenkins, but I'll respectfully disagree. The Seahawks have Marcus Trufant, Kelly Jennings and Josh Wilson at the cornerback position. While Jennings didn't perform well this year, he played much of the year with a rib injury.

I think its Mays (who is apparently going back to school) or an O-lineman.

I have a feeling Smith will interview poorly, and I personally think Oher is the best lineman prospect in this draft.

I am a Bradford fan, but I think mostly because his skillset is more a fit for a West Coast, or ball-control passing attack. I think Stafford is a more universal fit, albeit a lesser prospect.

I t hink its interesting that Robinson has been the consensus best guard for most of the year, until he makes a few bad plays. He'll go in the first, and be the first guard taken. Thats my hypothesis anyways.

He's no Brandon Albert though, seeing him in the mid-1st makes me a little queasy.

[cubuffsman78]

Maclin is a far better prospect than Heyward-Bey. It's really not a comparison. Heyward-Bey is a deep threat only. Maclin has been and will be more. Not to mention, he's probably the best return man in this draft.

I think the Jags go Curry over Maualuga. I don't like seeing Curry out of the top 10. I think he could go top 5.

Mays has commited to going back to school. Not your fault for projecting him there, though. I do think he was underrated by a lot of guys on this board and just overall. To be as big as he is and have legit 4.3 speed is rare. He fills on the run and isn't a coverage hazard. One of the best safety prospects ever, in my opinion.

I'm an Oher supporter, but I like Smith more. He's more of a pure LT than Oher.

I do not think William Moore is a first round pick any longer. He struggled in coverage all season.

McCoy would have been top 10 pick, if he'd come out. He's staying in school, though. What's with everyone calling the DT class so weak anyway? There is a lot of talent at the top still, particularly with Peria Jerry and B.J. Raji, both who could be first round picks. I think Sen'Derrick Marks is also a solid tackle. The position lacks depth, but the players at the top are more than quality. If anything, that means teams will reach for some of those players in fear of missing out later.

McRath is a reach. Who cares if he fits the scheme. You're talking about taking a guy four rounds too early because he fits a scheme. I think if you want a sleeper pick as a first round LB then Tyrone McKenzie is where to look. He'd be perfect for the Colts. Don't expect the Colts to reach, though. They have other needs.

Also, Brandon Spikes is returning to school.

Gresham is a top 20 talent and won't slip to the end of round 1.

Just a couple spelling corrections. It's Eben Britton, not Ebon. And it's Clint Sintim, not Simtin.

[mrdv1]

Originally Posted by kc5950 I like Malcolm Jenkins, but I'll respectfully disagree. The Seahawks have Marcus Trufant, Kelly Jennings and Josh Wilson at the cornerback position. While Jennings didn't perform well this year, he played much of the year with a rib injury. I think its Mays (who is apparently going back to school) or an O-lineman. I have a feeling Smith will interview poorly, and I personally think Oher is the best lineman prospect in this draft. I am a Bradford fan, but I think mostly because his skillset is more a fit for a West Coast, or ball-control passing attack. I think Stafford is a more universal fit, albeit a lesser prospect. I t hink its interesting that Robinson has been the consensus best guard for most of the year, until he makes a few bad plays. He'll go in the first, and be the first guard taken. Thats my hypothesis anyways. He's no Brandon Albert though, seeing him in the mid-1st makes me a little queasy.

I see Jenkins as possibly a safety for them if they drafted him there. Very true that they could go offensive tackle, but my reasoning was that if Jenkins doesn't start over jennings at corner they move him to FS. The secondary in seattle is a weak spot, and if you have the oppurtunity to get the best defensive back in the draft when you have a weak secondary, thats something you usually don't pass on, regardless of whether he's a corner safety or tweener.

As for Oher, he's a little hot and cold for my liking. He's a better run blocker than pass blocker, something usually associated with right tackles. I'm really interested to see how he fairs at the senior bowl and its practices. I think they will shed a lot of light on whether he's the top tackle or the 4th best. As for right now, i have him tied for second behind smith with monroe. St.Louis already has a big run blocker in Alex Barron, but the hole is at left where Orlando Pace can't stay healthy and is getting up there. Smith is a better LT prospect IMO

I agree with you on bradford's style, although this doesn't matter now as he appears ready to go back to oklahoma. Stafford however does have the arm, but he's erratic and has poor decision making skills. He is going to require a good qb coach and a couple years of sitting IMO to be good in this league. He should have gone back to school. I saw on ESPN today a top 10 list of Scout's Inc. I beleive that had Mark Sanchez rated 10 and Stafford not on the list. I just don't think you take a guy who requires as much work as stafford does at number one overall, regardless of potential.

I have to watch robinson more but he really was awful vs. Florida. It worries me because the big 12 defenses aren't like floridas. That being said you make a valid point. I can still see him going round 1, but I think Unger might slide out in front, not so much because duke's stock took a tumble, but because Unger's has risen.

[kc5950]

Originally Posted by mrdv1 I see Jenkins as possibly a safety for them if they drafted him there. Very true that they could go offensive tackle, but my reasoning was that if Jenkins doesn't start over jennings at corner they move him to FS. The secondary in seattle is a weak spot, and if you have the oppurtunity to get the best defensive back in the draft when you have a weak secondary, thats something you usually don't pass on, regardless of whether he's a corner safety or tweener. As for Oher, he's a little hot and cold for my liking. He's a better run blocker than pass blocker, something usually associated with right tackles. I'm really interested to see how he fairs at the senior bowl and its practices. I think they will shed a lot of light on whether he's the top tackle or the 4th best. As for right now, i have him tied for second behind smith with monroe. St.Louis already has a big run blocker in Alex Barron, but the hole is at left where Orlando Pace can't stay healthy and is getting up there. Smith is a better LT prospect IMO I agree with you on bradford's style, although this doesn't matter now as he appears ready to go back to oklahoma. Stafford however does have the arm, but he's erratic and has poor decision making skills. He is going to require a good qb coach and a couple years of sitting IMO to be good in this league. He should have gone back to school. I saw on ESPN today a top 10 list of Scout's Inc. I beleive that had Mark Sanchez rated 10 and Stafford not on the list. I just don't think you take a guy who requires as much work as stafford does at number one overall, regardless of potential. I have to watch robinson more but he really was awful vs. Florida. It worries me because the big 12 defenses aren't like floridas. That being said you make a valid point. I can still see him going round 1, but I think Unger might slide out in front, not so much because duke's stock took a tumble, but because Unger's has risen.

I will go with what Cubbs said. I try to avoid hyperbole, but I truly think Mays is the best safety prospect I've ever seen. He's going back to school so it is a bit moot. I think Seattle probably trades down, I could see, if the Lions were so inclined, Seattle trading their 4th overall for Detroit's other 1st rounder, 2nd rounder, and perhaps a 4th rounder. Then, taking Mark Sanchez, provided he declares, and taking any combination of players with their then two remaining picks in the top 40.

In recent years, I think Tim Ruskell has made crucial mistakes by getting rid of draft picks in talent rich drafts, rather than stacking them. That should change this year as the cupboard ran bare at several skill positions this season.

Like I said, I think that Smith's issue won't be his ability, but I can't believe his suspension from the bowl game has gone so unnoticed essentially by the media. I think that will become an issue during a combine interview, and his weight and work ethic will be under microscope also.

I'm not making another mock until this declaring business is done. I haven't read any rceent reports but the last I heard, about two hours ago before I went to school, was that Bradford was weighing options for the NFL.

I see alot of Peyton Manning in Stafford. He makes some throws that several, long time NFL QB's couldn't make on their brightest day.

[NYJets30]

All of our mocks at this point are rendered pretty useless by the fact that Bradford, Mays and Gresham are all returning to school. Back to the drawing board. I know I have to completely re-work mine