
01-12-2009, 11:18 PM
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First mock of the year
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Detroit Lions Stafford, Matthew, QB Georgia
Great QB who played tough competition in college. Let the rebuilding begin
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St. Louis Rams Smith, Andre, OT Alabama
The Rams were very disappointed to not get Jake Long. Smith isnt as polished but he has great potential
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Kansas City Chiefs Wells, Chris, RB Ohio State
the chiefs seem to want to stick with tyler thigpen. Larry Johnson wants out, so here is his replacement. Now the Chiefs are free to trade johnson for a first or second round pick
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Seattle Seahawks Crabtree, Michael, WR Texas Tech
Seattle has serious aging problems at reciever. Crabtree give the offense something to build around for future seasons and instantly makes the team that much better
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Cleveland Browns Curry, Aaron, OLB Wake Forest
Curry is an atheletic freak. This pick could also be Malcolm Jenkins, but LB position Curry can play any LB position and gives the Browns a Ware-like pass rusher
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Cincinnati Bengals Moreno, Knowshon, RB Georgia
Moreno gives Palmer some relief and is a great compliment to Benson asa one-two punch. Maybe they make it back to 8-8?
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Oakland Raiders Jenkins, Malcolm, CB Ohio State
With all the great offensive skill players off the board, Al Davis has a heart attack, his replacement realizes that Oaklands defense is pretty good. With Jenkins the defense becomes great
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Jacksonville Jaguars Oher, Michael, OT Ole Miss
Oher will help keep Gerarrd off his butt and healthy and will help unleash Jones-Drew
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Green Bay Packers Orakpo, Brian, DE Texas
The defense is just awful, however the coordinator is gone and with Orkapo and Hawk, the defense can build around two superstars
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San Francisco 49ers Bradford, Sam, QB Oklahoma
its finally time to call it, Alex Smith=bust. time to try again
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Buffalo Bills Gresham, Jermaine, TE Oklahoma
Trent Edwards needs a big checkdown threat to help out all the pressure thats on him. well....here it is
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Denver Broncos Mays, Taylor, S USC
Mays is a Polomalu/Reed/Sanders caliber player. Denver makes the best pick of the draft right here and seriously upgrades a dwindling secondary
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Washington Redskins Johnson, Michael, DE Georgia Tech
Jason Taylor is getting older and less impressive. Johnson will breathe new life into an average defense and make Washington a true contender
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New Orleans Saints Maualuga, Rey, ILB USC
The defense is just terrible. They are slow and almost non-existant. Maualuga brings a hard hitting in your face attitude that this organization desperately needs
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San Diego Chargers Britt, Kenny, WR Rutgers
The Chargers really dont have too many needs. Maybe they trade this pick for more picks. But Britt would give them a tall, speedy, athelete at reciever, something theyve never had. BEWARE ATTITUDE PROBLEMS
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Houston Texans Davis, Vontae, CB Illinois
The secondary is very weak, Davis brings size, speed, and physicality needed to push Houston to the next level
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New York Jets Daniel, Chase, QB Missouri
Favre is close to gone. However if he has the audasity to come back when no one wants him, Daniel will have a great mentor. It worked out well for Aaron Rodgers
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Chicago Bears McCoy, Gerald, DT Oklahoma
Bears bring in McCoy to bring back the defense they are known for. Giant, Fast, and Hard Hitting
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers Raji, BJ, DT Boston College
Raji isnt a standout playmaker but he will fill holes and occupy blockers to unleash the true playmakers of the Tampa defense. Great pick here
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Arizona Cardinals Greene, Shonn, RB Iowa
Edge is out, no matter how much the Cardinals baby him in the post season. Greene brings the same style of running with more speed and youth on his side
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Detroit Lions Britton, Eben, OT Arizona
Time to get a line for Stafford. Skills players are always lovely but look where drafting skill players has gotten the Lions. Its time to build from the trenches up
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Philadelphia Eagles Laurinaitis, James, ILB Ohio State
The Eagles havent had a great LB since Trotter left. Laurinaitis is a great playmaker with amazing instincts and will make the Eagles superbowl contenders
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Minnesota Vikings Maclin, Jeremy, WR Missouri
Defense: check. RB's: Check. Not much they can do about the QB situation here so they take Maclin to get a serious deep/return threat. he is a danger every time he steps on the field
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Atlanta Falcons Pettigrew, Brandon, TE Oklahoma State
With Alge Crumpler gone, the Falcons need a playmaking TE again. Here he is. Ryan now has all the weapons he needs. Beware NFC....here come the Falcons
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Miami Dolphins Sintim, Clint, OLB Virginia
I personally believe the Fins were a fluke this year. but one things for sure, they better amp up the D if they are gonna win the division again
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New England Patriots Moore, DJ, CB Vanderbilt
The Patriots corners are again and Moore was probably the best corner in the SEC. enough said right there
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Baltimore Ravens Spikes, Brandon, ILB Florida
With very few needs anywhere the Ravens complete the amazingness that is their defense. dynasty in waiting???
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Philadelphia Eagles Beckum, Travis, TE Wisconsin
The Eagles dont really have a whole bunch of needs. an atheletic TE would give another weapon to McNabb to check down to. Although Beckum has had quite a few injuries, i believe he could be a steal here
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Indianapolis Colts Harvin, Percy, WR Florida
The most interesting pick of the draft right here. I know they need DT's like nobodys business, but with all the game changing DT's off the board, the Colts SHOULD address the glaring need in the return game. Harvin is a great playmaker and a threat whenever he gets the ball
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New York Giants Cushing, Brian, OLB USC
Injuries have slaughtered the Giants D. This may be more of a depth pick but Cushing has great size and good speed and could well work his way into the starting line-up
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Pittsburgh Steelers Mack, Alex, C California
Mack can move to guard and maybe keep Big Ben from getting a concussion every other game
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Tennessee Titans Nicks, Hakeem, WR North Carolina
The Titans havent had a great reciever since mason left. Nicks' stock has risen more than anyones in the past months. He's giant and has great hands. speed is a bit lacking but doesnt he start to remind you of a certain Cardinals reciever????
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01-13-2009, 12:14 AM
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If the Lions go QB at #1 it will probably be Bradford. Not saying I have any insight into the Lions scouting department, but at this point Bradford is ranked higher. Stafford is actually falling a bit
Beanie Wells at 3? For one thing thats too high for him (or any RB this year) and for another the Chirfs have way too many other needs
Almost none of the mocks that have been posted have included Maybin. I guess everyone assumed he was staying in school? He declared for the draft, and I think he's a great pick for Cleveland
I love Moreno, but even I think 6 is a bit high for him. And the Bengals seem to like their RB combo of Perry and Benson, I think they'll go D or OL
I personally think thats a bit high for Gresham, but it's actually not a bad pick for Buffalo
Not a big fan of Michael Johnson, thats the highest I've seen him go all year
If Jonathan Vilma leaves New Orleans, thats a great pick. If he stays, they'll look elsewhere
Britt over Maclin, Harvin, Heyward-Bay and Nicks?
Chase Daniel in the first round? I'd be surprised if he got drafted before round 5 at this point
Gerald McCoy is staying in school
Maclin too low. He wont get past the Jets at 17
Pettigrew a bit too high for my liking. Gresham is the only 1st round TE this year IMO
I think Baltimore's reps would trip over each other trying to pick Harvin. I doubt he falls past them
Not a solid mock, a bit more research on sho's stock is up and down, who's staying and going etc is needed
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QB: Peyton Manning (Matt Schaub)
RB: Michael Turner, Thomas Jones (Kevin Smith, Knowshon Moreno)
WR: Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall, Mike Sims-Walker (Sidney Rice, Pierre Garcon, Malcolm Floyd)
TE: Heath Miller (Brent Celek)
K: Nick Folk (Matt Stover)
DEF: Pittsburgh (Green Bay)
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01-13-2009, 12:35 AM
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I loathe the Beanie Wells to KC pick. Wells is injury proned and they're mysterious injuries that doctors say aren't there, too. He's got no heart. No way is he in the Top 10.
You rank RBs far too high. I like Knowshon, but he's not Top 10 either.
I prefer Bradford over Stafford. Most guys on this forum do. It's not an unbelievable pick though.
Definitely don't like seeing Michael Johnson ahead of Everette Brown and Aaron Maybin, who you omit.
Britt is a late first rounder at best and most like falls into the late second round. Jets listed the guys ahead of him. Maclin, Nicks, Harvin, etc.
Your draft order is incorrect, too. The Lions have the 20th pick for their second selection. That's just one of the order mistakes I saw.
McCoy would have been a Top 10 pick if he entered, but he's going back to OU for his junior year.
The Ravens pick makes sense, but your explanation doesn't. Spikes would be replacing Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs or Bart Scott. All three are free agents. He's not completing anything in other words. He'd be replacing.
Beckum is not a first round pick. The only TEs worthy of first round grades are Gresham and Pettigrew. Beckum is a second day pick due to a series of injuries.
Another order problem... Tennessee can't have the last pick. That goes to the Super Bowl winner, which obviously isn't the Titans. And if it could be the Titans, pick 31 couldn't go to Pittsburgh as it is given to the loser of the Super Bowl. Tennessee can't win a Super Bowl over the Steelers.
I like Shonn Greene, but he isn't a first round back. He's a second rounder. LeSean McCoy would fit better to Arizona anyway.
Chase Daniel won't sniff the first round. He might not even get drafted. He's small and he really struggled this season. I love the guy. He's a Texas high school football legend. Being a sports writer in Texas and an admirer of Texas high school football, Daniel is one of the my fave QBs in the country. I hope he gets on somewhere, but he won't.
I don't like Mack in the Steelers' power run scheme as a guard. Unger from Oregon State would fit better.
Jets said it. You do need more research. I hope you do some and come back to try again.
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01-13-2009, 01:06 AM
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Chase Daniel? Oh god I can see it now lol.
Theres no way they take Chase Daniel in the first round. I could see Mark Sanchez possibly though.
To high for Kenny Britt. I think he is a second round pick at this point.
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01-13-2009, 01:13 AM
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I could see Garrett Graham going over Travis Beckum actually. Injuries really hurt Beckum and he's probably a 5th round pick. Depends on his off season. I could see 4th if all goes well.
I don't think the running backs are THAT good of pro prospects this year. I actually don't think either is a top ten pick at all at this point. I really like Wells and I try to make a case for him, but that Fiesta Bowl left a bad taste in my mouth. He vanished when his team needed him.
I don't like Michael Oher at all. I think he's overrated and it'll show up on film. Yeah he's dominating at times, but he's way to inconsistent. Right tackle in my opinion.
Chase Daniel is Chris Leak 2.0.
I didn't see Jason Smith.
I like Kenny Britt, but mid first rounder is a bit of a stretch for me.
I did like quite a few picks. Actually I had 14 of the same picks on my mock draft that I wrote up last week. So I can't complain there
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01-13-2009, 01:17 AM
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everyone has made most of the comments I'd make.
One thing I'd like to say, no way in the world do neither Eugene Monroe or Jason Smith not go in the first. Both are better prospects then Oher and Britton at this point. I think in the right scenario, both could go top 10
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01-13-2009, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by porky88
Michael Oher ... he's way to inconsistent. Right tackle in my opinion.
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I'm starting to agree with this. He just doesn't seem to be able to pass block well enough to be a LT, and it should show on 1 on 1 drills. He can definately be a dominant run blocker however, and still warants a first round pick. I'd say him and Smith are tied for the third best tackle prospects. You take Smith if you need a left, Oher if you need a right.
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01-14-2009, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdv1
I'm starting to agree with this. He just doesn't seem to be able to pass block well enough to be a LT, and it should show on 1 on 1 drills. He can definately be a dominant run blocker however, and still warants a first round pick. I'd say him and Smith are tied for the third best tackle prospects. You take Smith if you need a left, Oher if you need a right.
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First I'll just say that I like Smith way better than Oher. But if you think their equal and had to choose between the two, I don't think left or right would be the deciding factor. You'd look at what type of tackle your looking for. If you want an athletic pass blocker you go with Smith, if you want a bigger more powerful run blocker you go with Oher
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01-14-2009, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint33
First I'll just say that I like Smith way better than Oher. But if you think their equal and had to choose between the two, I don't think left or right would be the deciding factor. You'd look at what type of tackle your looking for. If you want an athletic pass blocker you go with Smith, if you want a bigger more powerful run blocker you go with Oher
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Left tackles are more valuable because they protect your quarterbacks blind side. Of course you could always have a left handed quarterback and then right tackle becomes more valuable, but off the top of my head I'm not sure there are any left handed starters in the league right now.
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01-14-2009, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by porky88
Left tackles are more valuable because they protect your quarterbacks blind side. Of course you could always have a left handed quarterback and then right tackle becomes more valuable, but off the top of my head I'm not sure there are any left handed starters in the league right now.
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I know that. My point was that either player will be groomed as a LT. Now I don't think Oher will ever cut it at LT, but if he's drafted top 20, he'll be groomed as a LT.
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