My first first round

[pep9993]

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com...atcher/1030/1a

Here it is people.

[cubuffsman78]

No Chris Long in the first round? I hope that's just an oversight.

That would really change your first round completely. Hard to evaluate the draft without a major player like Long in there.

[kc5950]

Broncos wont take a 1st round RB, and also won't pass on Ryan Clady if he's available. That is, unless one of the top defensive prospects (Long, Dorsey, Ellis) falls to them. Ryan Clady will be 1st on their OT board, and probably upwards of 5th overall for them.

I don't see the sense in Stewart to the Bengals. Kenny Watson filled in fine, and for a team that has some serious needs on defense, and some defensive players available at 9, it doesn't make any sense.

The reason Woodson is falling to the 2nd is because his mechanics will need to be overhauled in the pros. Chicago needs a QB who can compete within the next 2-3 years, not a project. I don't have an issue with them taking a QB at 14, just not Woodson.

I'm not a fan of Houston taking Otah. They've needed O-line help since the franchise's inception, but will not pick the BPA, rather a player who fits their scheme.

Clearly you are projecting your own combine, and I can respect that, so I won't put down the rest of your picks, minus the Chris Long omission of course.

[pep9993]

Thank you for catching that.

[Saint33]

Originally Posted by pep9993 Thank you for catching that.

good getting him, but 8 is too low. The guy's the favorite for the first spot right now

i wont echo kc's comments, but I agree with all of them except that Denver will go with Clady if available, I think it's a toss up between Clady and Phillips, but you may not have mentioned that because Phillips wasn't available in his mock

I don't like Minnesota going Doucet with Jackson on the board, they could really use a deep threat like Jackson to complement Rice and get defenses outta their 8 and 9 man fronts

Way too high for Cherilus. He'll be lucky to slip into the top of the 2nd.

The Chargers WRs really picked up their game in the playoffs, especially Vincent Jackson, who is a very nice posession reciever. There is no need for them to go WR in the 1st 2 years in a row, especially with Jackson, Chambers and the jury still out on Buster Davis

[kc5950]

Say what you'd like to about Denver's RB strategy, but they've been able to turn these "diamonds in the rough" into an MVP and 2,000 yard rusher in Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Rueben Droughns, Tatum Bell, and Clinton Portis, who netted the Bronco's Champ Bailey and Tatum Bell. All of those backs rushed for over 1,000 yards, and all have been acquired at minimal cost, then traded or released at a minimal cap hit.

I don't see the Texans drafting a 1st round back either, which I've seen in some mocks. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a look at Chris Johnson in the 2nd, or Steve Slaton or Ray Rice in the 3rd. Even if they did break tradition, and take a 1st round back, I'd be entirely surprised if it was Jonathan Stewart, who I've seen in some mocks. Rashard Mendenhall possibly, or Felix Jones, but not Stewart.

[cubuffsman78]

Chris Long at 8 is far too low. He's a top five pick. I think the Rams would take him over Dorsey because they like Carriker inside in their defensive scheme. I definitely don't think there's anyway the Jets would take Gholston over Long. Long could play DE or OLB in the Jets' 3-4. He could be a 4-3 DE as well and depending on how much weight he decides to play with, could be a 4-3 DT in pass rushing situations. Seriously, he's got as much versatility as his father did when he played.

I dont' think Stewart is a top 10 pick right now and I don't think Cincy needs him either. I think they're fine at RB and I believe a healthy Rudi Johnson is still a good back. You're not along thinking Stewart is worthy of top 10, though. Kiper ranks him in the top 10 as well.

I think Shanahan is too arrogant with his staff's ability to pick up backs in later rounds or in FA to draft one in the first round. He has a lot of pride in their ability to plug any back in the backfield and have success. They've done it consistently for the past decade. Plus, is it really a first round need? Selvin Young showed a lot of ability. Mike Bell is still a good back as is a healthy Travis Henry.

I was slow to come off the Woodson bandwagon, but it's getting lonely on there. I like his ability and potential, but I got some tape of a couple senior bowl practices from a friend and I have to agree, he didn't look good. There are some striking alarms. His release is very slow and it will be taken advantage of in the NFL.

Calais Campbell bothers me. He has top 10 potential, but second round production and a late round work ethic. There aren't a lot of 6'8, 270 lbs. DEs out there, though. I could see someone taking a risk on him in the top 20. I like him in the late first more, though.

The Texans OL no longer needs help. They gave up something like 22 sacks last season. That's phenomenal. There shouldn't be any first round projections of Houston taking OL help at all.

Cherilus is late first round at best right now. I see him in the mid-second. Chris Williams would be a better selection for Philly, allowing them to prep Justice as a potential replacement for Jon Runyan at RT.

I don't think I'm alone in this opinion... There will be two CBs taken in the top 20 and maybe even three. I think Jenkins, McKelvin and Talib are top 20 picks. The only question about Talib is his speed. If he runs a good 40, which I think he will, then he could be considered the best CB in this draft.

Two WRs won't be taken over DeSean Jackson. I'm seeing Kelly projected over him a lot. I don't like Kelly, though. Doucet is my No. 2 WR. Jackson's speed and underrated route running ability makes him the top WR. Speed kills. Jackson is more skilled as a receiver than Ted Ginn and look where he went.

San Diego has a possession receiver. He's disguised as a TE, though. That's what Gates is. Chargers don't need a WR, especially with the recent addition of Chris Chambers.

I know Dallas taking two DBs in the first round is your thing this year, but I'm not buying. Only a nickel CB is really needed and Dallas must draft a CB that is effective on the exterior, not in the slot. Terrence Newman covers the slot in the NFL. I'm fine with Talib. In fact, I'd be ecstatic if they picked him up. Reggie Smith is worth that pick, but I don't see it happening. I think a WR or even an OT is more likely in your draft. I'm starting to buy into getting an OT in this year's draft because of Flozell's contract status and age. I like Doug Free, but don't know if he's anything more than a good backup.Chris Williams should be in your draft somewhere. He's the best athlete at the OT position in this year's class. He could be a RT or a LT. He's the best RT prospect in this class as both Long and Clady project as almost definite LTs. Williams is the first guy on the list that could excel on either side.

Also, how did Keith Rivers go from No. 8 in your draft to not even in the first round? That doesn't make sense at all.

[kc5950]

2 things.

I just noticed that Sam Baker fell out of the first. If he was on the board when the Seahawks picked and they passed I might start running around my neighborhood kicking animals. He's another guy, like Carl Nicks, who can play guard, and if they sign Faneca can be groomed at LT.

I don't think that a lack of need precludes Houston from taking OL, I just think that it has to be the right guy. Clady and Baker would make sense.

[kc5950]

Originally Posted by Saint33 i wont echo kc's comments, but I agree with all of them except that Denver will go with Clady if available, I think it's a toss up between Clady and Phillips, but you may not have mentioned that because Phillips wasn't available in his mock

I like Kenny Phillips alot, but it seems like he's lost favor w/ experts. It hasn't been uncommon for him to fall in the second round of mocks. The Broncos have two 4th rounders they could package with their 2nd if they don't think he will fall to them in the 2nd.

I don't think he goes to the Pats, but I think he falls a ways if he gets past the Broncos. If I had to guess Denver's big board, it would be something like this.

Chris Long
Glenn Dorsey
Sedrick Ellis
Ryan Clady
Kenny Phillips

[pep9993]

My mocks tend to be the picks that I think they should take.

Parcells taking Long with the first pick is a more of a Parcell's pick than taking a QB eventhough he took Bledsoe at 1. It is even less likely that Paercell's will take a QB with the number one pick because of the recent success of his free agent signing of Romo.

And Denver taking a RB in the first round is unheard of but to me it is necessary when you have a young star in the making at QB. All that said Shanahan will likely pass on Mendenhall.

I did make an Eagles pick TWICE. Once for the Eagles and once for the Cowboys. The Eagles always seem to take an OT. Remember when the Eagles had two All Pro DB's and still drafted two corners with their first two picks.

The Vikings all ready have a deep threat.

The Chargers need a possesion WR eventhough they have a good TE. I love Chambers but he is a great addition but it wouldn't hurt adding another weapon to the offense.

Cherilus alraedy has the size of a NFL OT which puts him at least a few spots ahead for me.

Dallas could take an OL but it would more likely be a OG to replace Kosier.

I read that Kieth Rivers was like 220 lbs. thats why he dropped for me. Xavier Addibi is small too so I have them going in the second round.