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Here lies my second mock of the year (32 picks), ready to be heavily criticised and disagreed with by many of you. Or maybe it wont, I have no idea. But here it goes. No trades, sorry pep.

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1. Miami - DT Glenn Dorsey - Louisiana State
2. St. Louis - OT Jake Long - Michigan
3. Oakland - RB Darren McFadden - Arkansas
4. Atlanta - QB Matt Ryan - Boston College
5. Kansas City - DT Sedric Ellis - Southern California
6. Jersey/B - DE Chris Long - Virginia
7. New England (via San Fransisco) - CB Mike Jenkins - South Florida
8. Baltimore - OT Ryan Clady - Boise State
9. Cincinatti - DE Vernon Gholston - Ohio State
10. New Orleans - CB Leodis McKelvin - Troy
11. Buffalo - LB Dan Conners - Pennsylvania State
12. Denver - DB Kenny Phillips - Miami
13. Carolina - OT Sam Baker - Southern California
14. Chicago - QB Brian Brohm - Louisville
15. Detroit - OT Chris Williams - Vanderbilt
16. Arizona - CB Aqib Talib - Kansas
17. Minnesota - DE Derrick Harvey - Florida
18. Houston - RB Jonathan Stewat - Oregon
19. Philadelphia - LB Keith Rivers - Southern California
20. Tampa Bay - WR DeShaun Jackson - California
21. Washington - WR Malcolm Kelly - Oklahoma
22. Dallas (via Cleveland) - CB Antoine Cason - Arizona
23. Pittsburgh - OT Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh
24. Tennessee - WR Mario Manningham - Michigan
25. Seattle - RB Rashard Mendehall - Illinois
26. Jacksonville - DB Reggie Smith - Oklahoma
27. San Diego - DB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - Tennessee State
28. Dallas - RB Felix Jones - Arkansas
29. San Fransisco (via Indianapolis) - WR Limas Sweed - Texas
30. Green Bay - DE Lawrence Jackson - Southern California
31. New England (forfeited)
31. Jersey/A - LB Ali Highsmith - Louisiana State
32. Miami - QB Chad Henne - Michigan (cue the arguments)

I did this really quickly, because i was bored, so i might be missing a couple.

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I personally don't like seeing Chris Long fall to pick 6. I think the Rams would take him over Jake Long. Both Longs would fill a big need for the Rams, but I think Chris is the better prospect.

I like Chris Williams more than Sam Baker. I actually like Williams more than Clady now, too, but Clady is getting more hype. I think Williams could be the No. 2 OT after the combine, though.

Can't see Green Bay taking a DE. I had them taking one a few months ago, but after watching Kampman, Gbaja Biamila and Cullen Jenkins, I think Green Bay has one of the best trio of DEs in the NFL.

I don't mind Henne in the early second round. I just think Parcells and Co. will try out Beck first. I also like Flacco better.
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Yes, I agree I don;t see Parcells using a high pick on a QB this year, I think Parcells will try and fill all the fin's other holes and giving Beck a chance, b4 he trys to find his QB.

Def don't think Chris Long falls to #6 I think St Louis takes him #2 and Chris Long goes to KC.

I see GB taking a CB or Guard in round #1

Also I don;t think DeSean Jackson falls past Minnesota, Childress wants to get a big play target for Tavarias
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I'm not going to retread what other people said, but here is my only criticism.

I think that SF will take a receiver with either their 1st rounder, or 2nd rounder, only 11 picks apart, but it won't be either Limas Sweed or James Hardy, as many people have them taking. Mike Martz values receivers who have speed, and run good routes. His philosophy is very similar to the WCO, but he doesn't send his diminutive receivers over the middle to get pulverized by safeties. If Manningham and Jackson are both off the board when San Francisco picks I'd expect them to take Early Doucet.

I know that Martz and Detroit took Calvin Johnson last year, but there are exceptions to every rule, especially when you are talking about perhaps the best, and most complete prospect in a position's history.

Due to the Kubiak philosophy, inherited from Shanahan, I don't think the Texans take a runningback in the 1st, no matter who it is. Perhaps Steve Slaton or Ray Rice in the 3rd.
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I personally don't like seeing Chris Long fall to pick 6. I think the Rams would take him over Jake Long. Both Longs would fill a big need for the Rams, but I think Chris is the better prospect.

I like Chris Williams more than Sam Baker. I actually like Williams more than Clady now, too, but Clady is getting more hype. I think Williams could be the No. 2 OT after the combine, though.

Can't see Green Bay taking a DE. I had them taking one a few months ago, but after watching Kampman, Gbaja Biamila and Cullen Jenkins, I think Green Bay has one of the best trio of DEs in the NFL.

I don't mind Henne in the early second round. I just think Parcells and Co. will try out Beck first. I also like Flacco better.
I disagree I think Chad Henne will be better than Joe Flacco. I just think Henne would be rated a lot higher if it was not for the injuries he had during his senior season. And once he was healthy he showed he could make all the throws at the Senior Bowl and performing well during the game. Also has a big thick body that can endure a beating at the next level. Also I think Henne's footwork and mechanics are better. Flacco has had some questions regarding that and in the NFL when you get into pressure situations you go back to what you've always done.
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I disagree I think Chad Henne will be better than Joe Flacco. I just think Henne would be rated a lot higher if it was not for the injuries he had during his senior season. And once he was healthy he showed he could make all the throws at the Senior Bowl and performing well during the game. Also has a big thick body that can endure a beating at the next level. Also I think Henne's footwork and mechanics are better. Flacco has had some questions regarding that and in the NFL when you get into pressure situations you go back to what you've always done.
I agree with some parts of what you said... I do think Henne is better than Flacco. Arm strength for both is about the same with Flacco getting the slight edge IMO. Henne has better accuracy IMO, and I dont think it is that close. I agree that Henne has a thicker, more muscular body which will help him at the next level, although Flacco has a niceframe which he'll be able to add more muscle and bulk.
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I agree with some parts of what you said... I do think Henne is better than Flacco. Arm strength for both is about the same with Flacco getting the slight edge IMO. Henne has better accuracy IMO, and I dont think it is that close. I agree that Henne has a thicker, more muscular body which will help him at the next level, although Flacco has a niceframe which he'll be able to add more muscle and bulk.
I didn't say that Henne had a stronger arm I just said he proved he could make all the throws at the Senior Bowl when healthly and was one of the most impressive quarterbacks all week.
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I didn't say that Henne had a stronger arm I just said he proved he could make all the throws at the Senior Bowl when healthly and was one of the most impressive quarterbacks all week.
yes I know... I never took it that you meant he had a stronger arm...

I just agreed with some points that you said and then gave my own analysis between the two.
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yes I know... I never took it that you meant he had a stronger arm...

I just agreed with some points that you said and then gave my own analysis between the two.
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I actually think that Flacco has better arm strength and is more accurate than Henne.

Flacco has a prototypical frame, but has an awkward release. His actual throwing motion reminds me of Vince Young. His passes are released at or below ear level alot of the time. That negates his height a bit. Once they leave his hand I think his passes look great, and hit their target regularly.

The other obvious drawback is that he played at Delaware, and Henne played at Michigan.

Henne is a safer pick, and almost undoubtedly is more prepared to step in at some point this season or next. That doesn't mean he'll go before Flacco, or visa versa, but for a team like Miami, who will be playing auditioning guys very much the same way that Cleveland did last year, perhaps Henne is the better, safer option.

Although, Cubuffsman's boy Mcshay has Matt Ryan going to the Dolphins 1 overall.
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