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Default Top 5 over-drafted and under-drafted

Every season there are players who were obviously over-drafted or drafted higher than they should have been. Troy Williamson immediately comes to mind. There's also a group of players who are terribly under-drafted. DeMeco Ryans is probably the best example of this from last year's class.

My question is who are your top 5 prospects that are most likely to be over-drafted and under-drafted this year.

Over-drafted
1. Darrelle Revis - You guys know I don't like him. I've made it very clear. He's more measurables to me than anyone else and I think he'll be an absolutely bust in the NFL.
2. Joe Staley - It's not that I dislike Staley. It's just that he only fit every type of blocking scheme. He lacks power and the technique to make up for that lack of power. One can't deny his athleticism though and it will serve him well. I just hate to see an OL get drafted because he ran a fast 40. That's a terrible way to judge an OL.
3. Robert Meachem - I hate to do this to him, but he reminds me of Troy Williamson. I love the kids attitude. He's got a great personality and work ethic, but right now he's nothing more than a vertical threat. There are talks of him being the 2nd best WR in this class since Ginn struggled through his personal workout. I'll be cheering for Meach, but he's not worth all of that.
4. Tank Tyler - He's not an athlete, but teams will see a big body and think "gap clogger". I don't think he's going to have a productive NFL career at all. He doesn't strike me as the type of player who will consistently need to have two blockers assigned to him.
5. Chris Henry - I can't believe the talk that is surrounding Henry as being the possible 3rd RB off the board in the 2nd round. That's a huge mistake. He never produced at the college level. He could hardly crack the starting lineup. He had one game in his college career with over 100 yards and averaged only 3.5 yards a carry last season. There is obviously some potential, but it's never lived up to the playing field. 3rd round would even be too high for him, but I have a feeling he will land there.

Under-drafted
1. Dwayne Bowe - Calvin Johnson is everyone's favorite WR, but after him is probably Dwayne Bowe for me. He only ran a 4.55 40 at the combine, but did run a 4.4 at his pro day in maximal conditions. I don't care what his speed is though. I think he's the best route runner of this draft class. He should be a top 15 pick in my eyes, but it's doubtful that he will be. There's a chance he'll be the 4th WR off the board. This is too low for a WR of his talent, but is probably a great situation for Bowe. I won't be surprised if he's the leading rookie WR next year because he'll probably go to a quality team.
2. Tim Crowder - I moved him to the 1st round in my last mock and I do believe that it is possible, but I will agree that he is more likely to be taken after Charles Johnson and maybe even Anthony Spencer. If this were a typical DE class though, Crowder would be a 1st round pick. He's a great athlete for his size and has given solid production throughout his career at Texas.
3. Ryan Kalil - The best technician among this year's crop of OL. Unfortunately, OCs always drop further than they should. I felt Mangold was worth a higher pick last year and I feel the same way about Kalil this season. The center position is terribly underrated in the NFL. Kalil is definitely worth a 1st round pick and I think he's worth placing in the top 25. He won't get there though. I have him going to Baltimore with the 29th pick. Most would consider that a reach. I think he has great value there. I won't be surprised if he drops to the middle of the 2nd round though.
4. David Irons - Irons has a load of talent and experience. He doesn't do anything extremely well, but he doesn't do anything terribly wrong either. I think he'll be a consistent CB and is worth a 2nd round pick. He could slip as far as the 4th round though.
5. Nate Harris - He's the lesser known of the two Harris LBs in this draft. No relation to David though. I think David Harris will be drafted too low as well, but Nate Harris will be drafted even lower than he should be. He's one of the best coverage LBs in this draft and is versatile enough to play at MLB or OLB. I don't think there's a scheme he doesn't fit in, from a cover 2 to a 3-4. He has terrific straight line speed and side to side agility. He just never quite got the hype he deserved.
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OVER
1: Ted Ginn - I think some team in the top 15 will take a chance on him. I have stated my case about Ginn before
2: Chris Henry - Just because he blazed the fastest 40 at the Combine, some team will take him way too high

thats really it, there are a lot more people I think will be under-drafted

UNDER:
1: Brady Quinn - I still firmly believe the Lions should take him at #2, and that he will be a solid NFL QB
2: Dwayne Jarrett - A classic example of the 40 yard dash overshadowing the great things he did in college. I love Jarrett and I think if he's taken oustide the top 25 he is a huge steal
3: Alan Branch - He went from a potential #3 pick to possibly falling outside the top 15. Even if he has no work ethic, all he has to do is stand there on the field and he'll take up 2 blockers
4: Jamaal Anderson - I've seen him fall as far as the 20's. I think he will be an outstanding pass rusher and average 10 sacks (or close to it) throughout his career)
5: Paul Posluzsny - I'm still not sure why he's fallen as far as he has. If New Orleans grabs him they got a big steal
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Over:
1. Revis
2. Meachem
3. Levi Brown
4. Chris Henry
5. Charles Johnson

Under:
1. Anderson
2. Posluzsny
3. David Irons
4. Kalil
5. Weddle
6. Pittman
7. Wolfe
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Over-Drafted:
1. Dwayne Jarrett- Overall athletism isn't impressive. Can only be an elite factor in the red zone but has no ability to stretch the field in the NFL. Also is very weak against press corners.
2. Chris Henry- I agree with both of you they will see his speed and take him. HE NEVER STARTED A FULL SEASON OF COLLEGE AT ARIZONA.
3. Tim Shaw- Too small IMO to be a linebacker. Too slow to be a safety.
4. Leon Hall- I can't stop having flash backs of Ohio State and USC.
5. Aundrae Allison- Can't get of the line of scrimmage and that with cancel out his speed. Also has a tendincy to catch with his body.

Under-drafted
1. Adrian Peterson- Anything less than pick #3 is a mistake.
2. Brandon Meriweather- I think he will slip down farther than his skill level. One of the most talented safeties in the draft and barring character issues will be a huge steal in the late first/early to mid second.
3. Zach Miller- Very talented pass catcher and route runner and if he works on his blocking watch him be a full-time starter on an NFL team.
3. Jon Beason- Very Athletic, but undersized but in the right system could become a very good weakside linebacker. This years DeMeco Ryans.
4. Tim Crowder- See Cubbs.
5. Amobi Okoye- Sky is the Limit, I think he will turn out to be a better player than Branch in the future. Has good athletism and strong enough to hold his ground.
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Over
Revis
Ginn
Quinn
Jarrett

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Hall
Staley
Beason
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How much higher do you think Hall deserves to go?
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How much higher do you think Hall deserves to go?
pick 5 - 10... he isnt a Champ Bailey but I think he can be one of the best corners in the league in a few years.
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How much higher do you think Hall deserves to go?
pick 5 - 10... he isnt a Champ Bailey but I think he can be one of the best corners in the league in a few years.

I don't agree.....I just think that according to team needs he won't slide in. Also I think there are better players available.
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I don't understand why so many people on here don't like Revis. He was easily a first round pick before the combine and the combine only made his stock better. I see him as a future Pro Bowl CB in the NFL. He's got speed, long arms, breaks on the ball really well and has good hands. If I were a GM and needed a CB I would take Revis first. Now I don't want to get into a big whole discussion about it but we will just wait and see what happens.
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I don't understand why so many people on here don't like Revis. He was easily a first round pick before the combine and the combine only made his stock better. I see him as a future Pro Bowl CB in the NFL. He's got speed, long arms, breaks on the ball really well and has good hands. If I were a GM and needed a CB I would take Revis first. Now I don't want to get into a big whole discussion about it but we will just wait and see what happens.
i still think he is a 1st round pick but not a mid 1st rounder IMO... late 1st is more like it.
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